Super Quotes for Super Heroes

[sagas4]

marc said:

Given that we see with our brains and "we" only see what our brain wants us to see...

Ahh. Now you see something new grasshopper, yet it was there all the time.

Ever Look for the car keys for a half hour because you were sure you did not lay them on the kitchen table, so you look everywhere and even on the kitchen table three times; only to sit down at the table lay your hand down feel something look and there are the keys?

We are all aware that we know things, but we only know them when we know them, otherwise it remains unrevealed until one is ready to know it.

[BoyntonStu]

I always know the right thing to say after the right time to say it has past.

(doesn't everyone?)

BoyntonStu

[Anon Guy]

Power and law are not synonymous. In truth, they are frequently in opposition and irreconcilable. There is God's Law from which all Equitable laws of man emerge and by which men must live if they are not to die in oppression, chaos and despair. Divorced from God's eternal and immutable Law, established before the founding of the suns, man's power is evil no matter the noble words with which it is employed or the motives urged when enforcing it. Men of good will, mindful therefore of the Law laid down by God, will oppose governments whose rule is by men, and if they wish to survive as a nation they will destroy the government which attempts to adjudicate by the whim of venal judges.

Marcus Tullius Cicero
106-43 B.C.

[Anon Guy]

"A [public] servant will not be corrected by words: for though he understand he will not answer." Proverbs 29:19

[KaosTheory]

Cool quotes anon guy. Cicero has never failed to impress me. I'm gonna have to dig up some more of his writings.

[Anon Guy]

Hunter S. Thompson's thoughts about the 2000 election:

"We have become a Nazi monster in the eyes of the
whole world, a nation of bullies and bastards who
would rather kill than live peacefully. We are
not just w-h-o-r-e-s for power and oil, but killer
w-h-o-r-e-s with hate and fear in our hearts. We are
human scum, and that is how history will judge
us. No redeeming social value. Just w-h-o-r-e-s . Get
out of our way, or we'll kill you.

Who does vote for these dishonest sh**heads? Who
among us can be happy and proud of having all
this innocent blood on our hands? Who are these
swine? These flag-sucking half-wits who get
fleeced and fooled by stupid little rich kids
like George Bush?

They are the same ones who wanted to have
Muhammad Ali locked up for refusing to kill
gooks. They speak for all that is cruel and
stupid and vicious in the American character.
They are the racists and hate mongers among us;
they are the Ku Klux Klan. I piss down the
throats of these Nazis.

And I am too old to worry about whether they like
it or not. "

(that auto-edit 'dirty words' feature sucks !)

[Anon Guy]

KT,

then here's another ! ;D

"There exists a law, not written down anywhere, but inborn in our hearts; a law which comes to us not by training or custom or reading; a law which has come to us not from theory but from practice, not by instruction but by natural intuition. I refer to the law which lays it down that, if our lives are endangered by plots or violence or armed robbers or enemies, any and every method of protecting ourselves is morally right."

Marcus Tulius Cicero (106-53 BC)

[KaosTheory]

Ah, another impressive quote.

Anon Guy, in your opinion, would it be safe to conclude that it appears that Cicero believes that he, at least, has a natural right to life, liberty, and property? And, that this right is self evident?

[marc stevens]

Guest-Anon said:

(that auto-edit 'dirty words' feature sucks !)

Not when it takes words out I don't want on the forum.

[Anon Guy]

KT,

I'm not sure Cicero had thought it out that far, but he makes a good arguement against the separation of church and state.


Marc,

I'm an advocate of the voluntary censoring of profanity, but as I recall, you made a similar comment in a post about Ernie Handthingy... lol



Back to the quotes,

"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind.

And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so.

How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar."

-- Julius Caesar


I guess it's true,
Those who forget the lessons of the past, are destined to repeat them.

[sagas4]

Guest-Anon said:

KT,
I'm not sure Cicero had thought it out that far, but he makes a good arguement against the separation of church and state.

[. . .]

Back to the quotes,

"Beware the leader [. . . . ]
For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar."
[. . . ]

Anon,

I have read this one before and like this particular quote; however, there is some debate in some circles as to whether this was Joseph G., Julius, or another yet unknown author. (Do a search on the net it is easy to find the discussions). While I tend to believe it is likely Julius; belief does not make it real. Do you know where this quote actually came from. . . just curious.

BTW. we have had some discussion on other threads about church and state. It is interesting to observe that the state has many things in common with churches and religion, IMHO State = Religion, Courthouse = ChurchBldg. Judge = High Priest etc.

More quotes:

Not sure where this came from sorry:

Note to (insert group name here):
FYI - It is easy to spot gubmint agents in the midst of your group. They are always the ones stirring dissent then trying to get everyone to kill someone or blow something up.

[sagas4]

While I do not advocate any form of violence I have always had an affinity for this quote. (emphasis added).

"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." ~ Winston Churchill

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Notes from a Statist perspective . . .

"Thoughts are more dangerous than guns. We don't allow our people to have guns, why should we let them think?" ~ Joseph Stalin

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I know I have has some less than stellar views in posts about some of Plato's works but disagreeing on a particular point or subject is different from attacking the messenger and it does not negate other great works from the same author.

"We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark. The real tragedy of life is when grown men are afraid of the light." ~ Plato

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Speaks volumes:

"What I hear, I forget. What I see, I remember. What I do, I understand." ~ Confucius, 451BC

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Another of my favorites. Makes me think of Marc's work and what the masses think - from personal experience, I'm sure most of us in this forum have had at one time or another!

“Strange times are these when old and young alike are taught falsehoods in school.
And the person that dares to tell the truth is at once called a lunatic and fool.” ~ Plato Circa 360 B.C.

[Rizzotherat]

BoyntonStu said:

"With great power comes huge utility bills" Spider-Man's accountant.

This is really funny! I enjoyed this one ;D

[Rizzotherat]

"But while one portion of the human race is judging and condemning the other without mercy, the Great Parent of the universe looks upon the whole of the human family with a fatherly care and paternal regard. He views them as His offspring, and without any of those contracted feelings that influence the children of men, will judge all men, not according to the narrow contracted notions of men, but, according to the deeds done in the body." Joseph Smith Jr.

[KaosTheory]

Saga, I do think that you are a little hard on Plato.

That's ok, but doncha go talkin no trash 'bout Socrates now.