Super Quotes DISCUSSION thread?

[Darren Dirt]

...in response to a PM that a very active AiLL member sent to me...

just a thought here;

I've noticed that the Quotes thread is remaining pretty free of comments and sticking mostly to quotes, which is, I think, a good thing. And I am ALWAYS open to discussion and thread stealing.

But I just wanted to throw out the idea that it might be better to discuss the quotes someplace else so as not to take away from the focus of that thread.

PS: My vote is *** EDIT My PREFERENCE/OPINION is *** Answer 1/2 -- I periodically go to the "printable" version and Save-As... the file since it is so long and valuable -- both for the quotes, and for the extra info that is RELATED (we've overall been very good with nobody hijacking the thread )


PS: The link to that thread is here:
Super Quotes for Super Heros

[Darren Dirt]

(bump) - Wow, I'm surprised, it's neck in neck

[NonEntity]

How many times can I vote, Darren? (Seems like no one else really gives a ...)

- NonE

(or maybe they're all still hung over.)

[gjflanker]

Voting is a form of violence. I decline to vote.

[NonEntity]

Rolling on the FLOOR, Laughing my ASS OFF!

Thanks for that, GJ

- NonE

[gjflanker]

You're welcome, but seriously, I was amazed that someone one this forum would actually post a 'poll'! Democracy ain't a voluntary society!

[NonEntity]

There is a difference. We're all here voluntarily. Darren is just asking the opinions of others. Nothing wrong with that. If you don't want to be here you can leave, or you can set up your own board (speaking of Darren, who's both here AND on his own!)

- NonE

[gjflanker]

Hey Darren, didn't look to see that you had created the poll. No offense intended to you re: previous post by me.

Neo, yes, I am here voluntarily, and I take your point about being able to leave and create my own board. And granted, there is a big difference, to put it mildly, between choosing to be a member of a forum community and choosing to be a citizen of a particular state or not (or not being in any state). Given that, what is the difference then if a statist tells me something like, "This is the best country in the world, if you don't like it here, then get out and go somewhere else?"

No one will shoot me for creating a new voluntaryist forum, but I would get shot if I tried to create a new state where one exists already (you know, like the north did to the south). Hmm, but what if I went somewhere where there is no current state? Perhaps an asteroid or a colony on Mars? But then, what about someone born in my new voluntary society? What if they did not like it? Do they have to accept the way things are or leave? Obviously they didn't choose to be born where they are, nor did we.

[gjflanker]

Another thought, just how would decisions be made in a voluntary society? It's interesting to note that Darren creates a 'poll' for people to 'vote' and even says what his 'vote' is. Because of our conditioning in the so-called U.S., the implication is that the opinions being sought would indeed be used to make a decision or at least inform it. But does the majority of respondents to the poll have any authority to make a decision? Obviously not, because this forum is not a democracy, it is a monarchy, with Marc as the king, deriving his authority not from us, but from the fact that he created the forum and we subscribe to it. Then again, we can leave, ultimately giving us, (we the people?) some degree of market power. Please forgive my rambling, just some thoughts the post has prompted.

[NonEntity]

Well, I think that the underlying error in the (communal) thinking is that there IS any correct way. What is correct for one is possibly wrong for another, and so as long as there is no force involved each can choose to buy from, sell to, associate with, not associate with, eat, sleep, etc. according to his or her wishes. Initiation of force is the only problem, and it seems to result from the belief that there is ONE correct way to do things. There is an infinite way of doing things, and probably an infinte CORRECT way, but what is correct for me is not correct for you (I can't STAND your WIFE! But then you're married to her, and that keeps YOU happy, so it works for me... see?

- NonE

[Darren Dirt]

gjflanker said:

Voting is a form of violence. I decline to vote.

Aw, man, I totally brought that on myself

Yes, voting is violence when it is to (s)elect an individual to rule over you and OTHERS.

But if you're in a voluntary community, and a decision is being made that is still not gonna be exactly "binding" on the members of the community, then it is called a "poll" and thus you're not "voting", you're just expressing your "preference" -- whether or not it will be heeded or noticed, who knows...

So this is a poll. mkay?



PS:

gjflanker said:

Another thought, just how would decisions be made in a voluntary society? It's interesting to note that Darren creates a 'poll' for people to 'vote' and even says what his 'vote' is.

Okay, I've edited my original post. ;D



And also PPS:

Should we try to keep the "Super Quotes" thread focused on

Notice the poll says "should we try to keep..." not "should Marc force us to keep" or similar



And finally PPPS:

nonentity said:

There is an infinite way of doing things, and probably an infinte CORRECT way, but what is correct for me is not correct for you (I can't STAND your WIFE!

Ah, so I take it you've met her then?

[NonEntity]

I vote we hire Darren to shoot anyone who makes any more posts to this thread.

- NonE

[Darren Dirt]

nonentity said:

I vote we hire Darren to shoot anyone who makes any more posts to this thread.

- NonE

I hereby resign from that office before being voted in

[NonEntity]

What kind of vote is that? We VOTED!!! You're REQUIRED! It's the LAW! Who do you think you are, AnyWay?

- NonE

[sagas4]

nonentity said:

"I kept looking for someone to make a difference, and then I realized that I was someone."

I heard this on the radio in an ad a few minutes ago and thought it quite excellent.

- NonE

What was it for? My guess would be some government sponsored or funded or supported program.

(Post here too since I don't really care where we discuss and since y'all can't seem to decide yet either and to both not upset and to upset both those that want to keep the quote thread clean, and those who want to discuss there, so there, everyone gets the same!) You can both be upset and not upset at the same time for multiple posts in multiple threads about a single topic. )

Personally I kind of like things organized and like the idea of a discussion thread but in the end don;t really care one way or the other so the rest of you either come to consensus or not. Until then I may post here, there, both or none but will agree to abide by what ever the group decides so long as I agree to abide by it. . . . . Ok this is slowly becoming a lawyeresque disclaimer you know the drill.