Gun Registration/Control=People Reg./Control?

[NonEntity]

Sagas, as a dyslexic, I prefer it this way: "Law shall make no Congress."

- NonE :-)

[sagas4]

NonE,

Actually I think that is a much better way of putting it and it makes sense to me if that makes sense.

[gjflanker]

nonentity said:

Sagas, as a dyslexic, I prefer it this way: "Law shall make no Congress."

- NonE :-)

Law = someone's opinion : Someone's opinion shall make no Congress.

Kewl. :-)

[gjflanker]

sagas4 said:

That is awesome G,

Also I am aware of that from my few bad apple days and much study of historical documents.

I think they should have started the constitution with the first amendment and put a period after "Congress shall make no law", then left it alone. ;D

There was quite a bit of argument that creating a bill of rights would cause gov't. to recognize only the ones listed. Makes ya wonder what they were smokin'. Well, ya, I know, it was hemp. :-)

[Darren Dirt]

"Gun Control" DEBUNKING, all on a SINGLE page...


1.
Good place to point the logical and/or grammar-minded "gun control" believer...
Address to the Los Angeles Police Commission by J. Neil Schulman

or Google search the words of the title:
Address to the Los Angeles Police Commission by J. Neil Schulman





2.
Good place to point the statistics-minded or emotionally-blinded "gun control" believer...
"Shall Issue": The New Wave of Concealed Handgun Permit Laws

or Google search the words of the title:
Shall Issue The New Wave of Concealed Handgun Permit Laws



2b.
...or more briefly, again re. statistics and emotionalism:
www.free-market.net/resources/lit/guns-safer.html
( part of the ISIL Literature Series of Online Pamphlets )





3.
And finally some food-for-thought for those on the side of reason, i.e. self-defense advocates:
SELF CONTROL Not Gun Control

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PS: On the first site mentioned above (a LONG RUNNING site, pre-WWW, from the BBS days) I also found a very useful article re. CRITICAL THINKING -- It's a good way of determining the veracity of an argument or opinion, and it certainly can't help to suggest it along with the above

A Field Guide to Critical Thinking by James Lett


ENJOY! ;D

[Darren Dirt]

Police actually recognize self-defense shooting as self-defense! Justice, at last? (wonder what would have happened in more "socialist" states, Minnesota etc.?)

Salem police say shooting death likely self-defense

statesmanjournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060426/NEWS/604260303&template=printart

Salem police say shooting death likely self-defense
Investigators say a 300-pound man broke down a door, charged couple

MATT MONAGHAN and DAN DE CARBONEL
Statesman Journal

April 26, 2006

What started as an argument involving a woman, her estranged boyfriend and her current boyfriend ended with the former boyfriend shot dead Monday night, Salem police said.

Jason Benjamin Scott, 31, the former boyfriend of Diana Carol Rennels, 26, was found dead by police about 9:35 p.m. at 2375 Coral Ave. NE.

Police said Sean C. Dougherty, 38, Rennels' current boyfriend, who lives with her at the northeast Salem apartment, shot Scott after the 6-foot-4, 300-pound man broke through the front door of Rennels' apartment.

Three children were in the apartment at the time of the shooting and were not injured, police said.

Police are investigating the shooting, Lt. Jim Anglemier said, and the case will be referred to the Marion County District Attorney's Office. Deputy District Attorney Courtland Geyer said the case will be reviewed to determine whether charges should be filed or to classify it as justifiable homicide.

Anglemier said an initial investigation indicated that Dougherty and Rennels feared for their safety.

"After investigating the scene and interviewing the residents of the apartment, we determined the shooting was in self-defense," Anglemier said.

...

Dougherty and Rennels told police that when Scott arrived, he forced his way into their apartment and charged at them as they were seated on a couch. Dougherty picked up a handgun owned by Rennels and fired several shots at Scott, hitting him once in the upper torso, Anglemier said.

"He was a pretty big guy," Anglemier said of Scott. "He was coming at them at a pretty fast pace."

Rennels and Scott broke up last summer and had been having on-again, off-again issues, Anglemier said.

Justifiable-homicide cases are not unheard of in Marion County.

In 2002, a grand jury found that a shooting in Woodburn was justified. Esterbel Rios-Gomez, 22, was shot with a hunting rifle by homeowner Paciano Reyes-Vieyra when Rios-Gomez went to Reyes-Vieyra's residence twice one morning. Rios-Gomez threatened to kill Reyes-Vieyra and his family unless he could see his former girlfriend, who was a relative of Reyes-Vieyra and living at the home. Rios-Gomez and the girlfriend had had a child together.

In 2003, Salem homeowner Linn Stordahl shot Anthony Choate, 16, of Salem, whom Stordahl discovered in his garage after Choate set a box on fire.

( linked from homepage of the excellent KeepAndBearArms.com website ;D )

[Darren Dirt]

Wow, just found this: LewRockwell.com has a handy Gun Rights Archives page! Tons of articles (including a classic essay that is always a chilling read ) to send to your cop-worshipping friends who think pro-gun arguments are redneck nonsense...

[Darren Dirt]

Stephen warns us of the recent evil plans of the perpetually evil U.N. -- "They're trying to take away our guns!" ;D

[Darren Dirt]

darrendirt said:

A well armed society is a polite society. A well armed society is also feared by the people who want to Schiavo your life, Patriot Act your liberty, and Kelo your property in the pursuit of their own happiness.

- Ed Cobb , improving upon Robert A Heinlein (or Mark Twain, if the one quoting hasn't read RAH's "To Sail Beyond the Sunset" )

(see also www.wallsofthecity.net/2006/03/firearms_and_boredom.html and www.a-human-right.com/views2.html )

Just thought I'd link to the above... Some good quotes and GREAT articles above.

[Darren Dirt]

Linda Hamilton, a real-life (not movie) hero


Tons of background info. ...and a very sad ending to this unbelievably unjust case


Found via Bill St. Clair's website

[Darren Dirt]

Eye-opening article:

Gun Control = Genocide (preceded only by confiscation)


see also ls.wustl.edu/WULQ/75-3/753-4.html , which of course mentions professor Rudolf J. Rummel's famous 169Million estimate from "DEATH BY GOVERNMENT"

[Free Radical]

darrendirt said:

...which of course mentions professor Rudolf J. Rummel's famous 169Million estimate from "DEATH BY GOVERNMENT"

That estimate was recently updated to 262 million.

[Darren Dirt]

Oh, thanks... uh, that's "good" news. :-\

[Darren Dirt]

Cool frame from a high-speed camera (I presume)...

"Guns don't kill apples -- bullets do."

[Darren Dirt]

freeradical said:

darrendirt said:

...which of course mentions professor Rudolf J. Rummel's famous 169Million estimate from "DEATH BY GOVERNMENT"

That estimate was recently updated to 262 million.

You are correct (at least, Wikipedia agrees with you )
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democide
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._J._Rummel