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Post by sagas4 on Dec 7, 2005 22:33:43 GMT -5
I was in Atlanta in the Early 90's.
They proposed a gun ban and it passed.
A small community just north of there, Fulton or something like that, passed a ordinance that said all homeowners must have a gun in the house.
Atlanta officials were ticked off, people started moving there in droves. Atlanta's crime rate went up pretty quickly. Other small surrounding communities followed suit and they began growing as well.
I don't know what it's like now but I thought it was funny at the time, reading the exchanges of government officials in the head lines.
You'd think the Atlanta Mayor and city council would have realized what the problem was instead of attacking surrounding communities for stealing their citizens, and then blaming the increase in crime in Atlanta on the "easy access of guns" in surrounding communities.
How do you define lunacy?
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Post by lazerwood on Dec 8, 2005 8:18:33 GMT -5
We see it a lunacy. They see it as attempting to carry out the agenda of ultimately eliminating all private gun ownership, mandated by international treaties, by any means necessary.
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Post by marc stevens on Dec 9, 2005 10:28:04 GMT -5
Let's see here:
1. Government has no duty to protect anyone 2. Government wants people disarmed.
So, one group of men and women wants to take guns away from another, MUCH larger group of men and women. The smaller group says,
"Only we need guns because we're here to protect you. By the way, we're not here to protect you."
What does this tell you about government?
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Post by Darren Dirt on Dec 9, 2005 11:09:05 GMT -5
Here in "Canadeh" we be havin' ourselves an uhlekshun, so of course gun violence is all in the papers lately... So them liberals be giving the conservatives more votes: they said, and I thought this was a JOKE when I first heard, "we will ban all handguns" Don't worry, kids. The cops can still have them. So I thought the media would mention it as a controversial issue, you know, mention how often people die by handguns compared to, say KNIVES. Or how much more often crimes are STOPPED by simply displaying a gun. Or how many times people have been murdered in their homes when a simple gun presence would have made the murderer leave (after all, how long does it take for 911 to respond?) Nothing so far. I'm thinking of cleaning up the following I just dumped from my brain, and sending it to the Papers. Any guesses on how many crickets will be chirping in the silence I get as a response? Alice and Bob and Celebrity Marriage
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Post by NonEntity on Dec 9, 2005 12:20:26 GMT -5
Hey Darren, good article! My comments (and worth exactly what you paid for them!) are that it could stand a little "tightening up." I found that about midway through I started skimming. But I really like the overall story line and the way you've put it together. I sure would be interested to hear what kind of success you may have with it. - NonE And remember, people don't kill people, GUNS do!
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Post by Darren Dirt on Dec 9, 2005 12:24:02 GMT -5
And remember, people don't kill people, GUNS do! PS: Anyone, feel free to PM me what you think could be improved, i.e. suggestions re. pacing, characterization, or even if you've got any other allegorical facts I can "slip in under the radar"... And GUNS don't kill people, I thought the sudden acceleration of normally-stationary body tissue, especially cardiovascular organs, resulting in their inability to perform their expected functions, is what kills 'em.
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Post by Darren Dirt on Dec 9, 2005 15:07:03 GMT -5
Hey Darren, good article! My comments (and worth exactly what you paid for them!) are that it could stand a little "tightening up." I found that about midway through I started skimming. But I really like the overall story line and the way you've put it together. I sure would be interested to hear what kind of success you may have with it. - NonE And remember, people don't kill people, GUNS do! I just (3:07pm EST) posted a "second draft" at the same URL. Both are up, for comparison. Please Instant Message me, anyone who wants to offer feedback about what is "improved" in the new version, etc. ^ I intend to email this "short story" to the MSM, including the National Post (cover story today "LIBERALS TO BAN HANDGUNS") and see if they'd be willing to publish it as a voluntary (haha) contribution...
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Post by Darren Dirt on Dec 9, 2005 18:52:45 GMT -5
...looking forward to feedback from anyone who has time to read the new draft, as I plan on emailing at the end of this weekend to the MSM... Wish me luck, and thanks in advance. The Truth must be heard. Or at least publicly ignored and/or attacked, so the 10% who are awakened will notice.
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Post by learnin2 on Dec 9, 2005 21:07:26 GMT -5
No gun ever killed anyone, unless they clubed someone over the head with it. BULLETS kill people, buy punching holes through the body, thereby causing fluids to leak out. Bullets merely cause leaks in whatever you shoot them at. But not all leaks are fatal.
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Post by markh10 on Dec 10, 2005 0:48:27 GMT -5
"A strong body makes the mind Strong.As to species of exercise, I advise the Gun.While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind. Games played with the Ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body, and stamp no character on the mind. Let your Gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks."
THOMAS JEFFERSON Continental Terrorist, Author of Terrorism Document, "Constitution", or something like that.....never met the guy at any Militia meeting.
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Post by marc stevens on Dec 10, 2005 17:53:56 GMT -5
Jefferson has nothing to do with the constitution, he was in France at the time.
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Post by sagas4 on Dec 12, 2005 14:39:08 GMT -5
Hey Darren, good article! . . . . And remember, people don't kill people, GUNS do! Second that. . . And as Larry the Cable Guy Says, "If guns kill people then can I blame misspeellleed werds on my pensil, pin, computor or keeboarde?"
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Post by sagas4 on Dec 12, 2005 14:44:31 GMT -5
Jefferson has nothing to do with the constitution, he was in France at the time. Yes, I find it amazing many do not know that easily found piece of history, but then I did not learn it in the publik screwels either. I also like phrase "the constitution guarantees a seperation of church and state". Well that little tidbit is not in the constitution and is actually found in Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptist Association of Connecticut, written in 1802.
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Post by gjflanker on Dec 13, 2005 10:59:12 GMT -5
Jefferson has nothing to do with the constitution, he was in France at the time. Yes, I find it amazing many do not know that easily found piece of history, but then I did not learn it in the publik screwels either. I also like phrase "the constitution guarantees a seperation of church and state". Well that little tidbit is not in the constitution and is actually found in Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptist Association of Connecticut, written in 1802. My students learn it in my history class. Whether they remember it by the time they are 18 or older is another question. :-) BTW, Jefferson was in France as the U.S. ambassador. And of course, it's phrased, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion...", which of course is not in the Constitution, but in the first amendment to the Constitution. The first phrase in fact.
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Post by sagas4 on Dec 13, 2005 11:20:56 GMT -5
That is awesome G,
Also I am aware of that from my few bad apple days and much study of historical documents.
I think they should have started the constitution with the first amendment and put a period after "Congress shall make no law", then left it alone. ;D
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