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Post by lazerwood on Sept 18, 2005 12:06:44 GMT -5
...and nothing produces bio-mass so prolifically and economically as hemp ...
Save the trees! .... Save the Environment! ... Hemp for Victory!
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Post by sagas4 on Sept 19, 2005 12:30:04 GMT -5
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Post by sagas4 on Sept 19, 2005 12:51:05 GMT -5
...and nothing produces bio-mass so prolifically and economically as hemp ... Save the trees! .... Save the Environment! ... Hemp for Victory! The Adventures of Capitan Ozone Here is a demonstration where Capitan Ozone was fined. Not for publicly using Hemp . . . oil Fuel in his chainsaw, but for demonstrating his hemp smoking chainsaw in front of a crowd of people without a permit. www.ecolivingcenter.com/articles/hempfuel.htmlHere is the video of the above stills (no pun of the previous links intended). Capitan Ozone even brought a sack of doughnuts for the doughnut gobblers. www.captainozone.com/1/3%20Wild%20Salmon%20&%20Hemp%20Oil.wmv p.s. I just thought of something too. The old saying that something is not worth the paper it's printed on . . . The constitution was written on hemp paper so the ironic thing is that the paper IS probably more valuable than the ink and words written on it.
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Post by freeborn2005 on Sept 19, 2005 17:25:33 GMT -5
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Post by sagas4 on Sept 19, 2005 18:34:27 GMT -5
freeborn2005,
I have not yet had the time to listen to the link; however, Do a search on Nathan B. Stubblefield from Murray Kentucky sometime.
The earth itself is an electrical conductor and has an electro-magnetic field that can be tapped. Nathan B. Stubblefield of Murray Kentucky powered the first wireless "radio" transmission with an "Earth Battery" in 1882. He received a patent in 1898. Tesla, the only respectable scientist that continued some of Stubblefield’s experiments is now generally credited with inventing modern radio based upon the requirements Stubblefield set forth as a true "wireless or radio broadcast". Tesla himself also proved that the Earth is one giant conductor as well in later years with his experiments with the largest Tesla Coil ever build near Colorado Springs. He sent electricity through the earth that rippled like a rock in water, when the signal came back he amplified and sent it again. Forgetting the generators at the power station several miles away were Grounded he produced such an electrical field that he fried the generators and killed all power to Colorado Springs. That was basically the end of his career as no one would fund any more of his experiments.
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Post by marc stevens on Sept 19, 2005 19:48:36 GMT -5
yes, it depends on who's funding the study.
I'll say it again,
PROHIBITION WAS NOT ABOUT DRINKING ALCOHOL IT WAS ABOUT USING IT AS FUEL.
There are very powerful men/women who do not want the masses to have independent fuel sources.
Anything that promotes individual independence is dangerous to those who think collectively. Governments control and controlling a group is far easier than controlling individuals.
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Post by Neo on Sept 19, 2005 23:29:07 GMT -5
The power people are the power people. - a friend, quoted. Read that again, slowly, to understand what she said / meant.
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Post by scottinalaska on Sept 20, 2005 1:23:45 GMT -5
As I have put up my final cord of wood, had the tanker come and put in 500 gallons of unleaded, 400 gallons of diesel(heating oil) and filled the big propane tank, I am pretty much set for the next few months as winter approaches. I am on an electrical grid, but with a switch, can go to generator to power the well and lights. We got a moose this weekend and are stocked up with salmon. People are paying some of their auto repair bills with the awesome produce of their gardens since mine is pretty sorry. But hey, I can fix their car! This is more comfort than can be described. The "power people" Neo, are no longer so much in power over my family. s
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Post by gjflanker on Sept 20, 2005 10:07:59 GMT -5
As I have put up my final cord of wood, had the tanker come and put in 500 gallons of unleaded, 400 gallons of diesel(heating oil) and filled the big propane tank, I am pretty much set for the next few months as winter approaches. I am on an electrical grid, but with a switch, can go to generator to power the well and lights. We got a moose this weekend and are stocked up with salmon. People are paying some of their auto repair bills with the awesome produce of their gardens since mine is pretty sorry. But hey, I can fix their car! This is more comfort than can be described. The "power people" Neo, are no longer so much in power over my family. s Now imagine that instead of a tanker coming to fill your tanks, you were able to do so with the product(s) from your own (or perhaps a local, community run) still.
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Post by gjflanker on Sept 20, 2005 10:22:25 GMT -5
PROHIBITION WAS NOT ABOUT DRINKING ALCOHOL IT WAS ABOUT USING IT AS FUEL. Marc, not to be rude or anything, but is this an arbitrary opinion? If it is based upon facts currently within your knowledge, could you please share them? I have seen you say this elsewhere, but haven't seen anything else anywhere else. Not that I think you're making it up or anything, just curious to see what you're basing your opinion on.
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Post by NonEntity on Sept 20, 2005 19:18:12 GMT -5
Here is a very interesting article by L. Neil Smith on the subject of oil and alternative fuels. It looks at it mostly from the regulation and policial perspective. -NonE
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Post by marc stevens on Sept 20, 2005 20:53:25 GMT -5
PROHIBITION WAS NOT ABOUT DRINKING ALCOHOL IT WAS ABOUT USING IT AS FUEL. Marc, not to be rude or anything, but is this an arbitrary opinion? If it is based upon facts currently within your knowledge, could you please share them? I have seen you say this elsewhere, but haven't seen anything else anywhere else. Not that I think you're making it up or anything, just curious to see what you're basing your opinion on. It's my opinion based on the nature of government. While I may not be able to prove it, it certainly is not arbitrary. Whatever a politician is spewing forth is merely for diversion purposes; it is at best, a half truth. Let's look at an example: the civil war. We are told by politicians it was over the issue of slavery and we know historically that was a pile of BS. Let's look at the current war. We are told it was about WMD and "mushroom clouds." We know that was all BS. I think the point is made. Politicians are professional liars; their entire existence as politicians is based on lies. One thing is certain; prohibition was not what professional liars (politicians) said it was.
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Post by Wood Pellets on Sept 20, 2005 22:39:06 GMT -5
Is anyone familiar with wood pellets or a fire place insert if they are as good as advertised.Its of course not revoultionary but just for non the sky is falling times.
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Post by gjflanker on Sept 25, 2005 23:17:18 GMT -5
It's my opinion based on the nature of government. While I may not be able to prove it, it certainly is not arbitrary. Whatever a politician is spewing forth is merely for diversion purposes; it is at best, a half truth. Let's look at an example: the civil war. We are told by politicians it was over the issue of slavery and we know historically that was a pile of BS. Let's look at the current war. We are told it was about WMD and "mushroom clouds." We know that was all BS. I think the point is made. Politicians are professional liars; their entire existence as politicians is based on lies. One thing is certain; prohibition was not what professional liars (politicians) said it was. I agree that the Civil War (in itself a misnomer in that it was not a war over control of the government) was not about slavery. Check out "The South was Right" for a very interesting read on what it really was all about, mostly maintaining economic superiority of the northern markets over the southern supply of agricultural products. At any rate, I've done a bit of research, because I'm very certain that the prohibition movement has its roots going all the way back to the early 1800's, gaining steam during the run-up to the War of Northern Agression as abolitionists also took on other do-good social problems, including the beginning of temperance. At any rate, the temperance movement became fairly dorment following the War of Northern Agression, but regained steam in the early 1900's. I suspect they may have been aided and abetted by the petroleum industry. One of the things that seems to have killed the alcohol fuel industry was a tax that Congress passed to help fund the War of Northern Agression on alcohol. Distillerys were providing millions of gallons of alcohol as fuel for lamps at the time and it was seen as an excellent source of revenue. This tax did not go away when the war ended (since when has government ever given up a good source of revenue?). There were attempts in the early 1900's to end the tax, but because the Oil Trust (Rockefeller, Standard Oil, et al) opposed it, it stayed in place, again, effectively killing the market and making ethanol too expensive to compete with gasoline. The attached article is very lengthy and is the basis for my p.o.v. regarding why ethanol did not become a popular alternative or competitor with gasoline. www.runet.edu/~wkovarik/papers/fuel.htmlBTW, I'm not racist regarding blacks nor a southern sympathizer per se, other than if we espouse nationalist self-determination now, i.e. when we argued that Lithuania, Estonia, and Latvia should vote to decide if they wanted to stay in the USSR, and we do so as a matter of record for any other group of people, it seems hypocritical to have not allowed the southern states to be able to secede. See Lysander Spooner, "There is No Treason".
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Post by NonEntity on Sept 26, 2005 9:56:28 GMT -5
This is really interesting (about the origin of taxes on alcohol). I've never heard ANYthing about this before. I had always assumed it was about alcohol for drinking, not for energy.
-NonE
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