yeoman
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Post by yeoman on Jun 8, 2006 6:41:52 GMT -5
Dear Blade,
The trip to the midwest over the holidays was to visit family, pick up supplies and for consideration of a move back to flyover country from the edge of "the great American desert". The trip to the Rockies was to a school on livestock production. Along the way I stop and visit other farmers. I calculate miles and fuel needs prior to the trip. When I run low I stop at a rest stop, pump fuel from the barrels in a trailer or back of the truck, grab something to eat and keep rolling. I never knew how much time I wasted at dirty truck stops until I broke the habit.
Yeoman
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Post by Darren Dirt on Jun 26, 2006 9:46:51 GMT -5
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yeoman
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Post by yeoman on Jun 27, 2006 0:46:22 GMT -5
Dear Darren,
Regarding the above post: read taxes, regulations, more taxes, corporate welfare, more regulations especially on farmers, more bureaucracy, more taxes,and on, and on and on.
Yeoman (three months ,7000 miles oil/blood free and counting)
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Post by Darren Dirt on Jun 27, 2006 8:17:11 GMT -5
Dear Darren, Regarding the above post: read taxes, regulations, more taxes, corporate welfare, more regulations especially on farmers, more bureaucracy, more taxes,and on, and on and on. Yeoman (three months ,7000 miles oil/blood free and counting) agree x 1 agreement x 8 Alberta x 7 benefits x 1 between x 4 both x 1 New Brunswick x 7 Newfoundland x 2 collaboration x 1 cooperation x 2 creates x 1 growing x 3 growth x 1 partnership x 2 provinces x 2 signed x 3 together x 2 we x 4 So how exactly does one "province" (i.e. a FICTION!) called "Alberta" and another fiction called "New Brunswick" do all these things? How can these 2 fictions actually "sign" some kind of "agreement", where "we" "agree" "together" to "cooperation" or a "collaboration" "between" them "both", which "creates" a "partnership" with "benefits" and helps these fictions "grow"? - - - There is a benefit to all this thick verbiage, this hypnotizing political nonsense... I've been having trouble going to sleep at a decent time lately, so perhaps I posted those contents cuz subconsciously I was looking for some good zzz-invoking reading ;D (Seriously on that note: I highly recommend Ayn Rand's first novel "We The Living" for that purpose ) You know, come to think of it, you gotta wonder what's happening "on the inside" when PR-filled b.s. like the gov't announcement above is given to the "outside". ...Kinda like the question of WHY is Bill Gates AND Warren Buffet suddenly "out" of the corporate world, supposedly to devote their life and huge bank accounts to "charity" -- notice their "charity" funding is all about "U.N. Good" this and "implied coming soon world government That" -- the "outside" story is all about charity and philanthrophy, but who knows what's *really* the motivator: you wonder if someone put some "pressure" on these guys to "move things along" or something :-\
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yeoman
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Post by yeoman on Jun 27, 2006 14:30:07 GMT -5
Correction to my last post. It's 15,000+ miles of blood/oil free miles and counting.
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Post by Darren Dirt on Jul 5, 2006 17:35:14 GMT -5
new documentary re. the "birth and death of the electric car": Who Killed the Electric Car?(apparently among other things, the film deals with the under-reported issue "WHY HYDROGEN instead of electricity?")
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Post by sagas4 on Jul 5, 2006 22:50:31 GMT -5
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Post by Darren Dirt on Jul 5, 2006 23:43:07 GMT -5
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Post by Darren Dirt on Jul 11, 2006 14:15:40 GMT -5
acetone - fuel additive (COMMON, easy to find!) "1-3 ounces of pure acetone PER 10 gallons of gasoline"mp3.rbnlive.com/Stadt06.htmlMon., May 8, 2006: Playlists: M3U | RAM (Individual MP3s: Hr1 Hr2 ) John speaks about fuel additives, specifically acetone. Improve fuel mileage and engine performance when added under the following suggested guidelines (less is more): For gasoline engines, 1-3 ounces of pure acetone PER 10 gallons of gasoline. For diesel engines: 1-2 ounces of pure acetone PER 10 gallons of diesel. pesn.com/2005/03/17/6900069_Acetone/After you first find the best gasoline in your area, then try the acetone amount for your car per ten gallons, and if you are happy with your newfound mileage, you might want to try stopping the use of acetone for a couple of tanks. Watch the drop in mileage. It will amaze you. That reverse technique is one of the biggest eye openers concerning the use of acetone in fuel. In a 10-gallon tank of gasoline, use one to three ounces of pure acetone to obtain excellent mileage improvements. In a ten-gallon tank of diesel fuel, use from 1 to 2 ounces of acetone. Performance goes up too. Use about a half-teaspoon of acetone in the fuel tank of a 4-cycle lawnmower or snowblower. Or you can apply it with an eyedropper. Wikipedia sez: "Small quantities of acetone added to fuel may improve economy and engine performance, though this is only anecdotal and refuted by most automotive engineers."[/url] ...although the TALK page has more info... AMAZINGLY, it even links to www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2005/03/17/6900069_Acetone/ , and peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Acetone_as_a_Fuel_Additive ) - - - Anyone tried this?
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Post by sagas4 on Jul 13, 2006 20:40:46 GMT -5
Darren, KT Did some experiments here are the results. Mon., May 8, 2006: Playlists: M3U | RAM (Individual MP3s: Hr1 Hr2 ) John speaks about fuel additives, specifically acetone. Improve fuel mileage and engine performance when added under the following suggested guidelines (less is more): For gasoline engines, 1-3 ounces of pure acetone PER 10 gallons of gasoline. For diesel engines: 1-2 ounces of pure acetone PER 10 gallons of diesel. www.pesn.com/2006/03/17/6900069_Acetone
My car already calculates instantaneous mileage and average mileage. I'm going to start by adding 1 oz of acetone and see what the average mpg goes to.
Right now, mpg going to work averages 29 mpg. I'll let you know what happens after adding 1 oz. Then I'll try 2 oz then 3 oz and see if there is any difference.
Reference to Quote 1 Above
Ok, test #1 was not very impressive. I got an average 30 mpg this time instead of 29 mpg after driving the car about 30 miles on the hwy.
I added an equivalent of 2 oz of acetone per 10 gallons of gas.
This is a little off ways from the 20 mpg increase reported by the author of the article. I'm not sure what other factors might be involved though.
I'll try adding a little more acetone to see what happens tomorrow.
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Still nothing with 3 oz of pure acetone in 10 gallons of 87 octane.
I'm not sure what to think about the guy making the claims. Maybe there are other variables....I don't know.
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Here are a couple of things to think about. KT tested Acetone and it did a whole lot of nothing for the money. Yeoman has a diesel and can make his own fuel. What I'd still like to know is what Yeoman does with the glycerine. We likely need to test some other things for Gasoline engines as most folks have them. When I get the extra FRN's I'm gonna test making some browns gas with an under the hood electrolyzer. I've just acquired a test machine. (If I blow the engine it's not important). It will be some time though as I still have other things on my plate. P.S. I updated Post # 1 in this thread with KT's Results so we can dispel the acetone rumor.
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yeoman
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Post by yeoman on Jul 14, 2006 6:44:45 GMT -5
Dear Sagas4,
Good question on the glycerine! Here are some of the uses I have found so far.
1. Good hand cleaner 2.When mixed with a generous amount of sawdust and dirt it makes a Great tire goop to prevent flats in very adverse conditions.(compare to $35/gal. storebought) 3.Great as a tire lube for mounting tires. 4.Good fire starter for burning trash. 5.Good driveway dust settler. 6.Still researching it's use as an herbicide. 7.Good lubricant on machinery shafts and some bearings. 8.Keeps the flies off cattle when sprayed on their backs. 9.Great wood preservative. 10. If nothing else I can always compost it!
If anyone else has other ideas please share. However I do plan on converting to SVO asap to reduce my fuel cost from 60 cents to 0 and to free up some time. Now I spend about 1-2 hrs. a couple days a week to make 40 -45 gallons of premium quality B100. Just bought an '82 Merc.Benz to complete our fleet of sustainable transportation.
Yours,
Yeoman
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Post by Darren Dirt on Jul 14, 2006 13:55:52 GMT -5
Interesting info from KT re. acetone -- the only thing I'm wondering is, why not "go through the whole tank" before changing from 1 to 2 to 3 ounces? Also I think one of the sites I mentioned had said that it is revealing to run a few tanks with NONE afterwards and watch the mileage go "down"... So perhaps KT just has one of those engine combinations that has only 5-10% gains? Sounds like a lot of people have tried it and there's no real "profit motive" for the websites that promote it (since you can just buy it at any hardware store, etc.) :-\ ...all so confusing; glad I don't own a car PS: Yeoman... I do plan on converting to SVO asap to reduce my fuel cost from 60 cents to 0 and to free up some time. Now I spend about 1-2 hrs. a couple days a week to make 40 -45 gallons of premium quality B100. Just bought an '82 Merc.Benz to complete our fleet of sustainable transportation. YEOWZA! You rock, my friend ;D
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Post by sagas4 on Jul 14, 2006 23:20:32 GMT -5
Yeoman, DDD ;D Ditto Darren Dirt. You Da Man!! When I finish with my Gasoline/Brown's Gas/Hydrogen experiments, I'd like to get one of them 1.9 liter german diesels to test some home brew like you.
At the moment I'm testing a K&N High Flow Airfilter. - Depending upon the size and shape of the air filter on the engine a standard filter may only get an airflow around 319 CFM and the K&N upwards of 441 CFM. If you change the entire intake system with their's you can get upwards of 881 CFM airflow. More air means better combustion with less fuel.
- Second the K&N filters are made from cotton (a renewable resource) and standard filters are made from paper. Another renewable resource; however cotton grows faster than trees.
- Third the K&N filter can be cleaned, rather than thrown away and replaced. I think the manufacturer recomendations is a new air filter about every 10k to 15k miles. The K&N filters can be cleaned and used upwards of 1 million miles and have a warranty to match that claim.
The filters run anywhere from $30.00 FRN's upwards to over $100.00 FRN's but if the filter lasts 50k miles between cleanings like they claim well . . . do the math. A Standard filter every 10k-15k miles at $10.00-$15.00 FRN's. A single K&N at say $50.00 FRN;s and a $9.00 cleaning kit with a couple of cleanings and a 1 million mile life. . . Unless you buy a Mercedes then the car will be in the scrap heap before the filter goes bad. Even if you don't get any better mileage it still seems more environmentally friendly. I've got quite a bit of driving to do in the next couple of weeks with the court stuff and all so I'll report back if I notice any difference in mileage.
Next on the list to try. A friend told me he started adding 4 oz. of Marvel Mystery Oil to every 15-20 gal of gas and put's some in every oil change and claims a 6 mpg increase. That's not bad considering he has a Dodge 360 motor that gets 12MPG City, 12MPG Hwy, 12MPG hauling nothing, and the ever popular 12MPG hauling 50 fully loaded rail cars. In case you didn't figure that out that thing gets 12MPG ;D . . . and now it's getting 18. Marvel Mystery Oil might be chicken soup, Or as one blogger posted about an article in an old (now defunct) Mechanix Illustrated magazine about the claim of 30 years of research went into making the product. I’m not really sure what they’re trying to say in this ad… I think it’s either: “Marvel Oil will blow up your car”, or “Marvel oil is made of atomic bombs”. How ever you want to slice and dice it, I have surfed several avaition forums and it seems the pilots of them piper cubs swear by it. Here is another post about it. yarchive.net/car/marvel_mystery_oil.htmlAnd my buddy I spoke of above, Yep, he uses it in his air tools too. I guess it's better than putting water in them ;D
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Post by Darren Dirt on Jul 19, 2006 14:25:59 GMT -5
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Post by Darren Dirt on Jul 21, 2006 10:35:01 GMT -5
Apparently actress Daryl Hannah has a few enviro-friendly cars, including one that runs on "French Fries grease"... She's done a bunch of video blogging about biodiesel and related stuff, at her website dhlovelife.com ... www.dhlovelife.com/videos.htmlWOW -- she takes this stuff seriously! ;D Week 1 "Bio-Diesel" includes a bunch of interview clips she has done, including with Ellen DeGeneres, and even BillO aka "Big Giant Head" (!) -- Quicktime .MOV (25MB) , Youtube ( at the end of video # 1, it sez: biodiesel (B100) is available at the pump! Go 2 grassolean.com 4 a map. ) (i.e. this map) I'm surprised she's not in this movie ... but maybe if in a decade or two there's a film called "Who Killed The Biodiesel Car" then she will be one of the celeb speakers...
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