Stanford Prison Experiment the movie

[Freeborn]

I don't know whether this information has already been post, no matter I'm giving to you the information anyway guys.

The other day I was listening to the no state project 2005-11-12 show and when Marc came to the subject about the Stanford experiment suddenly I remembered a movie I watched long time ago call the experiment and I realized that it is exactly the movie based on the 1971 Stanford prison experiment.

So guys if you wish to watch it just go rent it, this movie came out in 2001

www.imdb.com/title/tt0250258/

Take away a man’s pride and humanity – and it makes him do even worse!

[dentistsugardust]

Ain't it weird how Stanford, Milgram And now with the 2 found kids (Stockholm Syndrome), All are in the media machine at the same time. Will the public be intelligent enough to embrace and intellectualize and equate it? Maybe the ones that didn't vote for Bush.

[Freeborn]

I think they just want to see may be the voluntary slaves react to it or get used to the matter.

[NonEntity]

See here!

A show on National Socialist Radio out of the Peoples' Republic enclave of San Francisco, California - KQED.

The show discusses the lure of "the dark side" with Philip Zimbardo. What makes good people do bad things? Where is the line between good and evil, and where does this line become blurred? Can we curb this seduction to commit immoral deeds?
Host: Dave Iverson
Guests: Philip Zimbardo , professor emeritus of psychology at Stanford University, creator of the Stanford Prison Experiment, and the author of "The Lucifer Effect: Understanding How Good People Turn Evil"

Direct link to MP3 file.

- NonE

[sagas4]

Philip Zimbardo . . . .

I saw an interview with him recently and was rather let down. (will check for a clip and post if I find it). They were talking about his experiment and comparing it with abu grab. His take was that there was not enough "oversight" and that's how these bad things happen. Had there been better "management" it wouldn't have occurred.

I guess he didn't manage his experiment that well then either.

Humph.

[NonEntity]

I think you're talking about the one I linked. Or it sounds like it. And I think that you are mis-characterizing the talk. His discussion that "it wouldn't have occurred" is about the experiment, not the bad actions that occurred during it. He was talking about different things in that interview, one of them the nature of how people can act in given situations and how that is in the nature of the human animal and not the individual. Another subject of discussion was the criticism he received on the trauma that the experiment inflicted on the participants and what that means and how to deal with those questions.

- NonE

[sagas4]

Nope,

This was a video, I watched it on TV not long ago. Bout 3 or 4 weeks ago. His words were that "there was not enough oversight at abu-grab" therefore concluded that the guards got out of "control" because there were not enough checks and balances in place.

That is why I was incensed, he was being "politically correct", and side stepping the whole issue.

I was immediately reminded of Noam Chomsky or Neal Bortz.

It's like them commercials on RBN between Marc's message.

addendum:

I still think he has done some wonderful work, and is an intelligent guy, but he is doing it a disservice himself and I have lost some respect I had for him. It's not my intent to say anything bad. I still like him I guess the best way to explain it is like them commercials on RBN between Marc's message only Marc had no say in that, and Philip Zimbardo did because it was him speaking in seeming contradiction to the results he knows so well. I mean how could you get a better real life example of his experiment in action and his comment was checks and balances? No wonder people get the idea there is some big conspiracy or someone "got" to this person or that person.

[lummox2]

Marc had no say in that, and Philip Zimbardo did because it was him speaking in seeming contradiction to the results he knows so well. I mean how could you get a better real life example of his experiment in action and his comment was checks and balances? No wonder people get the idea there is some big conspiracy or someone "got" to this person or that person

He who pays the piper calls the tune.

[sagas4]

I'm fairly sure Marc had little if any say in what commercials are ran on RBN, not his own message.

That's the point. Z seemed to be watering down his own message perhaps even intentional misdirection at worst, but you're right. It could likely by because of some sponsor requiring him to water it down in order to be on.

i.e. the Piper Payer.

[eye2i2hear]

lummox2 said:

No wonder people get the idea there is some big conspiracy or someone "got" to this person or that person

He who pays the piper calls the tune.

Cui Bono?

(and boy but how high and wide and deep is determining "gain/benefit" to the human psyche?! there ought to be a mirror for such gazing...)

[NonEntity]

Cui? Is that Sonny's daughter?

- NonE (looking in the mirror 2i2 provided and not sure that I'm pleased with the picture)

[lummox2]

sagas4 said:

I'm fairly sure Marc had little if any say in what commercials are ran on RBN, not his own message.

That's the point. Z seemed to be watering down his own message perhaps even intentional misdirection at worst, but you're right. It could likely by because of some sponsor requiring him to water it down in order to be on.

i.e. the Piper Payer.

Well, Z is a professor, he gets sponsored by "the state", a cushy job indoors with no heavy lifting, social status and probably is asked to research stuff for "the national interest" etc etc. He goes public with what he knows in the bottom of his soul and all that ends.

Marc didn't like the adverts he heard and walked. Marc is a free man, Z is bought and sold.

Like I said, respect is very definitely due.

[sagas4]

lummox2 said:

Like I said, respect is very definitely due.

To Marc, Yes, nI hope I didn't say it wrog. I lost some respect for Z not Marc.

[marc stevens]

Thanks guys. Like I wrote earlier, I usually don't hear the commercials.

[NonEntity]

NEWS!!!

A movie is to be made...

LONDON — Icon Entertainment Intl. has picked up international sales rights to Christopher McQuarrie's upcoming feature project "The Stanford Prison Experiment."

Pic, set to shoot this October, is based on the true story of Dr. Philip Zimbardo's ground-breaking study of human behavior at Stanford U. in 1971.

- NonE