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Post by sagas4 on Sept 15, 2006 11:40:29 GMT -5
We have quite a few links to Keith Olbermann videos laying around. Although he still has some political spin in his stuff as will be natural for the MSM to let anyone on the air, I think he does have some good rants that expose quite a bit to the observant eye. I thought a single place to put them videos would be handy. (Like we have a comedy central thread round here too). Olbermann Blasts Bush at Ground Zero. |
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Post by Darren Dirt on Sept 16, 2006 12:14:34 GMT -5
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Post by sagas4 on Sept 19, 2006 11:34:42 GMT -5
Decider says, "It is Unacceptable to Think". In response to a recent statement made by Colin Powell that, "The world is beginning to doubt the moral basis of our fight against terrorism". Video of Keith Olbermann 18/Sep/06 on the Decider's conference in the Rose Garden on Friday 15/Sep/06 MSNBC Video Link. In case the link disappears at some point here is the most pertinent text from the video. Who would you kill Mr. Decider to achieve an objective? |
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Post by eye2i2hear on Sept 19, 2006 14:03:18 GMT -5
In case the link disappears at some point here is the most pertinent text from the video.
. Duly acknowledging this is a side-bar post to this thread-- is this not a classic example of Group-think and delusional word artistry? By that, i mean by both Bush AND the reporter! I mean, "the world is beginning to doubt"... the world?! Colin or the reporter can speak for THE WORLD?!? Group think at its optimal. Ditto then the termed phrase "Americans and the rest of the world"... What propoganda-- that too easily glides right over too many heads. Then as to "unacceptable to think--"... we get to Mr Powell's "moral basis of our fight"; where we certainly can't be letting folk think about the moral basis of The State! Unacceptable to think-- "State"! As to Heir Bush's last statement, it's interesting to read it as: "It's unacceptable to think -- that there's any kind of comparison between the behavior of the United States extremists who kill innocent women and children to achieve an objective, and the action of Islamic extremists who kill innocent women and children to achieve an objective." followed by the unspoken: "Why, we know we're the best at it!" Of course, The Decider & Inc. certainly can't have anyone thinkin' THAT! What's truly unacceptable to think, is that there's any kind of difference between the two-- principally. Not to mention, little distinction (other than that made in the MSM via lack of full disclosure a/o that made secret via "National Security"). Speaking of "unacceptable to think": que up Madaam Secretary's collateral-damage-think " but the price -- we think the price is worth it" here, for but one example. ok. eye'm done |
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Post by sagas4 on Sept 19, 2006 14:40:30 GMT -5
Eye2, A Keen observation but much worse than that, as Adam Curtis points out in The Power of Nightmares it's mostly an illusion, actually a dark fantasy that these bad people want to get us and he who has the scariest imagination wins. I posted this latest rant by Olbermann because of the images that were captured in the decider's response. I'm beginning to see what Marc means about leaders with no followers. If this is not insanity on display (In more ways than one as you recognized) I don't want to know what is. I'm beginning to think people are actually seeing this. That in reality there are very few "enemies" and if there are few if any "enemies" to demonize and rally support, then of what purpose is government? I mean it's stated purpose is to "protect" stuff isn't it?. Marc is fond of citing the Arizona constitution that says the purpose is to protect and maintain individual rights. I kind of like Article 1 section 1 of the Illinois constitution. It reads, in part, "All men are by nature free and independent and have certain inherent and inalienable rights among which are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. To secure these rights and the protection of property, governments are instituted . . . ". They clearly state that the "State" purpose is to protect not only rights but property as well. funny isn't it? |
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Post by Darren Dirt on Sept 19, 2006 15:32:55 GMT -5
Eye2, A Keen observation but much worse than that, as Adam Curtis points out in The Power of Nightmares it's mostly an illusion, actually a dark fantasy that these bad people want to get us and he who has the scariest imagination wins. AMAZING! Adam Curtis is one and the same man behind "Nightmares", but ALSO behind "The Century of the Self" (mentioned by someone else on this forum) , and the upcoming exposee of shrinking altruism: "Cold, Cold Heart"  Is he all about exposing how weak and afraid and easily-exploited most of the sheeple are? And if so, is he hoping they stay that way (i.e. are his production basically "stop trying to change things, give up, it's getting worse and there is nothing you can do to stop it...") or is he trying to wake people up to take on individual responsibility to better their lives, and thus the world around them... Hmm... :-\ |
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Post by marc stevens on Sept 19, 2006 17:55:19 GMT -5
Curtis does a decent job. However, how could he miss PNAC in his Power of Nightmares???
I didn't think it was even possible to discuss neo-cons and 911 and not mention the Project for a New American Century.
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Post by dentistsugardust on Sept 21, 2006 14:43:32 GMT -5
A reply to Sagas' post of a reporter interviewing the Bushbitch
Reporter: "Mr. President, former Secretary of State Colin Powell says the world is beginning to doubt the moral basis of our fight against terrorism," he was asked by a reporter. "If a former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and former secretary of state feels this way, don't you think that Americans and the rest of the world are beginning to wonder whether you're following a flawed strategy?"
Decider: “If there's any comparison between the compassion and decency of the American people and the terrorist tactics of extremists, it's flawed logic,” Bush said. “It's just -- I simply can't accept that. It's unacceptable to think -- that there's any kind of comparison between the behavior of the United States of America and the action of Islamic extremists who kill innocent women and children to achieve an objective.
My response:
And what is the Compassion derived from? What the hell does Decency have to do with war and mayhem? did he even answer the question?
we need to go on a diet from eating so much of this fatty bulls***. I push my plate away
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Post by sagas4 on Sept 22, 2006 10:09:24 GMT -5
I was thinking something else as well. . .
Maybe it was a kernel of truth that decider said it is unacceptable to think and paused for a moment . . . individuals who think are the real enemy of any collectivist or state agenda so from his point of view it is unacceptable for people to think.
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Post by Darren Dirt on Oct 2, 2006 20:00:15 GMT -5
Clinton coverage totally missing the point, serving only to promote the Bush administration's revisionist history... www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KgkrApJ5PE Keith nails it, again. Too bad he's a statist. :-\ |
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Post by sagas4 on Oct 2, 2006 23:14:51 GMT -5
Clinton coverage totally missing the point, serving only to promote the Bush administration's revisionist history... www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KgkrApJ5PE Keith nails it, again. Too bad he's a statist. :-\ Agreed. Sometimes I wonder though . . . what Keith really thinks or if it's all just show for ratings  |
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Post by Darren Dirt on Oct 9, 2006 11:25:36 GMT -5
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Post by NonEntity on Oct 9, 2006 12:04:15 GMT -5
"Wow" is indeed the correct word for that broadcast! Excellent. Thanks, Darren, for the pointer.
- NonE
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Post by marc stevens on Oct 11, 2006 10:25:22 GMT -5
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Post by Darren Dirt on Oct 11, 2006 14:34:55 GMT -5
[url=http://www.infowars.com /]Alex Jones[/url] has it as today's "Video of the Day" (11Oct2006) -interestingly, there's also an apparent admission from Google re. artificially stifling the viewership numbers for Terror Storm "Google ... admitted the figures were pegged but claims again that the change was due to a technical glitch" :-\ ...the Keith Habeusmann video is also top o' the list at www.stopthelie.com/ . and see also: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Commissions_Act and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Writ_of_habeas_corpusAnd so, my poor friends to the south, whom some people call "Americans"... Habeus Corpus is effectively gone -- not just "suspended", according to the very legislators who "make the laws" and thus should know what they're talking about. ? Would Claire Wolfe say that now, finally, it *is* the time to... well, you know... maybe still not *YET* -- the "via the courts" method of reversing such evil might still work... "...defense lawyers are already asking federal judges to strike down key parts of the measure as unconstitutional. Two suits were filed this week in US District Court here. At issue: Whether the new antiterror legislation retroactively strips the courts of jurisdiction to hear detainee cases, and if so, would that amount to an unconstitutional suspension of the writ of habeas corpus." www.csmonitor.com/2006/1006/p01s03-uspo.html:-\ "Marjorie Cohn, Professor at Thomas Jefferson School of Law, President-elect of the National Lawyers Guild, discusses the official legislating of dictatorship with the Military Commissions Act." -- tree3.com/sound/aj/marj.mp3related quotes |
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