NonEntity's new article

[dentistsugardust]

Wow!! I See i have A previous post. It's definently in the wrong area???

NonE this is bright, man.

[Darren Dirt]

Clicking NonE's "archive" page reminded me of this:

www.aforcemorepowerful.org/order.php/

Anyone looked into this? I've pretty removed video games from my leisure activities (HUGE time sink) but others perhaps have checked it out?

[NonEntity]

My latest: Who is Responsible?

- NonE

[dentistsugardust]

"who is responsible?"

That was easy. By following orders you are nearly saying that you would follow a leader as he runs off A cliff, but not really, because the pattern has it that most follwers wake up right at this point. Concerned for their on life as they leave A bloody trail from other life they have taken as a result of following orders. #3
has to be responsible for his own actions, but what kind of fear drove him to do ill deeds? the fear of failing within the small circle of ones peers? First u volunteer then u train. Somewhere in there the light has to come on that at the end you will utilize skills that will bring detriment to other life. The drive is to make it back home and brag of your misgivings. But, only to be haunted in dreams and thought where no one else but you can be. Very provoking approach, NonE. Nice

[yeoman]

Dear NonE,

RE: Sex with 16 year olds.

Fire is a wonderful, useful, God given gift. But when it leaps out of the fire ring and burns down the forest, the animals, homes etc. it is devastating and destructive. That's why the Creator put limits around sex, for our protection and wellbeing.

[Darren Dirt]

Dear Master Thespian NonE,

RE: "mystery dinner theater"

It rules! ;D

[NonEntity]

I have a new article up at Strike-the-Root.com, Anger is Fruitless.

- NonE

[marc stevens]

Well said NonE, good article.

[NonEntity]

Hey, we have a new member! Welcome to the board, Marc. Please feel free to join in on any and all of the conversations and don't be a stranger (or at least not any stranger than the rest of us!)

- NonE


(Thanks ;D )

[dentistsugardust]

I Love All you fantastic people!

[Darren Dirt]

dentistsugardust said:

I Love All you fantastic people!

*hurt* But what about the rest of us?

[NonEntity]

"*hurt* But what about the rest of us?" ... sadly I relate to this ALL TO WELL! ;D

- NonE (ROFLMAO!!)

[eye2i2hear]

admin said:

Well said NonE, good article.

ok.
I (eye) get to be my usual schizo-semantic-self here.
Half of me agrees with half of what marc says, half of me says 'we' can't. ;D

I guess what eye'd offer here is a beckoning call back to word consideration. And so my nit-pick (?)* here is not with the context of the article but the key/title word: "anger". I would propose that the article would have been more historically accurate if titled "Outrage Is Fruitless". Or if you might consider, "Hostility Is Fruitless" or "Tirades Are Fruitless". *[I've never, that I know of, had any nit to pick (or is it "knit pick" today?), so I don't know how significant said picking would be. But if they're anything like say head-lice, bedbugs, or 'crabs', boy such 'nit' picking as early as possible seems crucially, if not painfully vital, no?]

Voltaire seems to have hit what I'm after here, in his oft quoted: "If you wish to discourse with me, first define your terms." [obviously, an aenglish rendering of it, where for 'terms' we wrapped-in-a-world of legalism might prefer 'words'] Noteworthy therein is the possessive pronoun, 'your'. So we might hear the admonition as: "first, let us agree to what the words mean". "Our" words, then.

I'm confident that most here accept that words are merely maps. But as with maps, it seems the more consistent we can be with the 'markers' the easier it twil be to get to a destination. Noting that in that, sadly there are Those wishing to determine a destination other than peace.

So, to point: granted, today (pop cult-orally), the word anger has been morphed to be synonymous with 'rage', 'hostile', 'tirade', etc. I offer in contrast, this from the Online Etymology Dictionary:

anger: v. c.1200, from O.N. angra "to grieve, vex;" n. c.1250, from O.N. angr "distress, grief," from P.Gmc. *angus (cf. O.E. enge "narrow, painful,"

Thus, to meye ear, I hear a very normal, natural meaning for the word 'anger'. It perhaps captures in its most intensity in experiencing the death of another. Is this not a natural emotion to experience (ie grievous/distressing/painful) then regarding typical contemporary Statist-think & speak? (noting said think'n'speak, looking in my mirrored past)

By this, or in this then, anger would be a very natural, normal, expected experience and reaction, would it not? Where then, one's 'negative' reaction to the emotion of anger (grief/distress/pain) would then be what the word itself for the most part today is used for; where addressing the anger, one allows it to morph into outrage, wrath, vengeance, hostility, etc.

As to said pop-morphing, noting the era regarding Latin with the dominating influence of the era of Roman Catholicism (religious superstition/church is state) the OED also has this:

anger:L. angere "to throttle, torment;"

angry: c.1360, from anger + -y (see anger). Originally "full of trouble, vexatious;" sense of "enraged, irate" is from c.1386.

Granting, eye may be reading more into this that is there, but the pattern seems the same, as words in their origins mean one thing but over time are turned (as intentional-- or simply morph with casual usage/sloth) in meaning.

What i'm basically asking here is simply that we each (re)examine our words. Particularly when putting them into public maps. I ask it in hopes of our maps may be as consistent as we might possibly make them in order to get us to our destination: peace. [instead of either anger or outrage!]

Respectfully intended,
eye2i2here

[NonEntity]

and respectfully received, 2i2.

I wish to point out two things.

1) I never said that anger was NOT natural. It is VERY natural. I have much experience in it's use and propagation for many years.

2) The fact that it is normal and natural and expected and so on does not make it an effective means of enhancing our lives. It is this that I'm trying to point out. I reasonate with Mr. Olbermann in his rants. But then I took note of what I looked like to myself and realized the bottom line:

It occurs to me that anger is what we feel when we are faced with the reality that something or someone is different from the story we had told ourselves--and we are unwilling to accept responsibility for our error.

Anger is a very immature response to not getting our way. It may work for children if they have parents who can be swayed by it. It does little for adults who don't have someone bigger to pickup the pieces of the mess they've left in their self-centered little tirades. (Who is going to pick up the pieces of Iraq?)

- NonE

[eye2i2hear]

the article has this at the end:

(A sense of humor is helpful as well, for we are all, as Michael, the Martian in Robert A. Heinlein's "Stranger in a Strange Land," learned, just human beings.)

reminded me of a melodically kewel song by the prog rock group Spock's Beard:

Strange World

Mary was on Face The Nation
Sunday morning ten o'clock
It's a very strange world
In a very strange time

Jimmy makes a handsome living
Juggling weapons in the park
It's a very strange world
In a very strange time

And so it goes slowly down the road
And so I say - I got no friends today

The bomber got his manifesto
Published in the New York Times
It's a very strange world
Got some interesting minds

Advertising pays more than a lot
While the teacher's selling pies in the parking lot
It's a very strange world
With some well hidden crimes

I didn't know life could get so cold
I didn't see - I thought they were all like me

It's a very strange world
But I think I like it

I didn't know life could get so cold
I didn't see - I thought they were all like me
And so it goes slowly down the road
And so I say - I got no friends today

Mary went to Face The Nation
Sunday morning ten o'clock
It's a very strange time
In a very strange world

interesting, perhaps too, that the group has a song titled "Stranger In A Strange Land"... (but not having read the book mentioned, I have no idea if its just coincidence)

and gosh, while we're quoting here, I really appreciate this from the article:

blaming our failings on others is but to continue the pathology. Until we stand up and shoulder our own responsibilities for our lives, choices, and actions, we will get exactly what we deserve: being treated as children. There is no one else to blame. It occurs to me that [rage]* is what we feel when we are faced with the reality that something or someone is different from the story we had told ourselves--and we are unwilling to accept responsibility for our error.

*[[insertion] mine]