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Post by marc stevens on Aug 28, 2006 18:32:39 GMT -5
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Post by sagas4 on Aug 28, 2006 20:42:11 GMT -5
A most excellent article NonE!
This is not an endorsement of state or government but after a certain point in your article these words kept ringing in my head.
"mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed" . . .
Why do the majority of people fear the unknown?
And did you ever think that this stuff is planned and executed so those in power can know with reasonable certainty the unknown?
When you know what's going to happen you can tailor a response and manipulate people into doing just about anything you want them to do.
Why do you think the recreational drugs became increasingly despised by the people in power. . . . and all out war was declared in the 1970's with Nixon?
Because you can't use fear to control a bunch of doped up hippies and if you do manage to work them up, there's no predicting the reaction within any reason.
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Post by NonEntity on Aug 29, 2006 9:40:35 GMT -5
"Because you can't use fear to control a bunch of doped up hippies and if you do manage to work them up, there's no predicting the reaction within any reason."
Hmm. I'd never thought of that before. Sounds plausible.
- NonE
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Post by dvishnu on Aug 29, 2006 13:49:54 GMT -5
Eloquently written...I however disagree with one statement...
I'm in complete agreement that the power of control was given to the parasites who wield it self-righteously with total disregard for individual freedom....
Feel free to forgive them all you want...I'll pass on that thought thank you much....
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Post by Darren Dirt on Aug 29, 2006 15:40:47 GMT -5
"Forgive" to many of us means "no longer hold a grudge of which you will personally strive to avenge". But to seek remedy to be made whole, to hold the violator/betrayer accountable for his actions, that's not in opposition to forgiveness.
I for one am willing and desiring to "forgive" all those terrorcrats who "did not what they were doing" (to quote a murdered man). But I believe justice should still be served, in some way... "Karma" and the like are too distant and ethereal to have any real impact on the violators.
And forgiveness does not mean that you "forget", NOR does it mean that you will ever again willfully place yourself in a position of vulnerability where the betrayer is able to injure you.
Just my 1.95cents USD.
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Post by dvishnu on Aug 29, 2006 18:29:31 GMT -5
Granted, I don't spend the bulk of my time and energy seething over the murders of countless millions of men, women and children perpetrated by the individuals who participate and run the machine called government....I prefer to find nonviolent ways to bring about a voluntary society where the initiation of force is not tolerated....
That said, I refuse to conduct any business with the culpable individuals until present victims are made whole....
Nothing wrong with anger....You either are or you're not....It's how you channel and react to it....
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Post by eye2i2hear on Aug 29, 2006 21:33:32 GMT -5
"As you wish measured to you, so measure to others."
The very fact of deception is that the one deceived can not know he is and be so.
That's a pretty staggering thought if you ponder it over. Am I deceived? Are you? How does one know? Does everyone know?
If i've been deceived and acted upon it, how would I want another to "measure" me?
The Powers controlling the typical U.S. individual are masters of deception thus making many deceived-- practically from the cradle, what with State day-care/school.
For me, this is a critical aspect of forgiveness: the deceived distinguished from the deceiver(s). It seems often the truest means of determining a truely deceived person is their attitude once awakened from said stupor. Generally, it includes expression of desire to make restitution (ie make whole)-- at some point. Check of one's own passions is equally vital to accurately hearing another.
my2cents worth, eye2i
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Post by marc stevens on Aug 29, 2006 23:07:03 GMT -5
While I used to think anger led to some great improvisation i.e., Dave Mustaine ;D, I don't think anger is productive. I have been given great advice recently that I need to be a model of excellence. I think Carl Watner wrote: If one takes care of the means, the end will take care of itself.
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Post by dvishnu on Aug 30, 2006 19:06:49 GMT -5
While I used to think anger led to some great improvisation i.e., Dave Mustaine ;D, I don't think anger is productive. I have been given great advice recently that I need to be a model of excellence. I think Carl Watner wrote: If one takes care of the means, the end will take care of itself. I agree that anger in itself is nonproductive, however, it's also a natural emotional expression to any event or episode that is deliberately meant to cause outrage...Everyone get angry at one point...Yes, even Mr. Spock... In fact, that's exactly the emotion the "parasites" project on its "subjects" with reckless abandon toward its intended target...In the case of 9-11, it was the Muslims...Very convenient... But once you've rediscovered a way to conduct business, or part of your thats completely bypasses "them" (govt) from the loop, the anger and outrage subside and "they" get punished in the process...That's just way too cool...
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Post by NonEntity on Sept 10, 2006 7:47:40 GMT -5
I've got a new article called Arrogance! up on The Price of Liberty.org -NonE
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Post by denizen on Sept 10, 2006 14:20:08 GMT -5
"Arrogance" is excellant
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Post by NonEntity on Oct 9, 2006 9:37:19 GMT -5
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Post by marc stevens on Oct 9, 2006 19:16:43 GMT -5
Good article NonE. Thought you guys would like this, it goes well with NonE's article.
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Post by NonEntity on Oct 9, 2006 20:36:07 GMT -5
Thanks Marc. Great poster!
- NonE
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Post by NonEntity on Oct 11, 2006 9:41:15 GMT -5
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