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Post by Darren Dirt on Mar 6, 2006 17:05:47 GMT -5
And for anyone not aware of the film, the IMDB page for it has tons of forums threads (with some spoilers, sadly) and also the official page will give you an idea what it's all about. In a nutshell: "Vendetta" is a well-known graphic novel in the 1980s/1990s illustrated by David Lloyd and written by Lloyd and Alan Moore. The Wachowski Brothers (aka Matrix dudes) wanted to make "Vendetta" even before they made the Matrix (see IMDB trivia page), but apparently didn't have the clout/experience/funding to make it happen. Some of the most memorable pro-individualistic-freedom messages and even some exact dialog in the first Matrix movie (let's just ignore #2 and #3) were lifted right out of "Vendetta", including what Morpheus says about "you've always been in a prison, you were born into slavery..." There's lots of action of course, but also hopefully the profound dialogue and monogues are retained from the written work. Overall it should be a fun ride, even if it isn't as "faithful to the source material" as some of us would like. Oh, and it should be dark, ala Batman Begins, or so I hope (based on the trailers I've seen). IMDB: www.imdb.com/title/tt0434409/plotsummaryIMDB trivia page: www.imdb.com/title/tt0434409/triviaOfficial site: vforvendetta.warnerbros.com/-see also earlier threads that mentioned it... 1. New movie for liberty lovers2. Films that show government's true violent form )
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wade
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Post by wade on Mar 6, 2006 17:42:17 GMT -5
OHH NO I just voted, imposing my will on myself ;D
The matrix 1 is I think one of favorite movies. Hopefully this will be as good or better.
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Post by sagas4 on Mar 6, 2006 18:13:39 GMT -5
I don't normally attend the theaters anymore; however, I made an exception for The Matrix, Serenity, and Will for V as well. I am going to impose my will upon the masses by voluntarily paying to see a movie. oops . . . I actually did so by voting in the poll, just making up for bad habits; maybe pacifying the urge here it will keep me out of the voting booth
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Post by Darren Dirt on Mar 6, 2006 18:27:05 GMT -5
I don't normally attend the theaters anymore; however, I made an exception for The Matrix, Serenity, and Will for V as well. I am going to impose my will upon the masses by voluntarily paying to see a movie. oops . . . I actually did so by voting in the poll, just making up for bad habits; maybe pacifying the urge here it will keep me out of the voting booth ...Well we've heard from 3 who have committed the dreaded deed of responding to the poll... I wonder who was #4 :-\ Serenity was an *experience* on the big screen. Still haven't watched my widescreen DVD yet, gotta be in the right mood to be fully immersed in the fascinating fantasy world of FireFly... And remember, I never said the word "VOTING", it's one of youz guyz that started it
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Post by sagas4 on Mar 6, 2006 18:49:50 GMT -5
Look at the First Post,
Hmmmmm . . . .
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Post by Darren Dirt on Mar 7, 2006 12:12:46 GMT -5
Good observation -- okay so it's "official" then, though "proboards.com" hosts an anti-state forum, the software is innately and presumptively statist
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Post by eye2i2hear on Mar 7, 2006 13:34:37 GMT -5
ok, boys and girls... are we going to let ourselves (here, In Libertyville... or is this Hooterville?!? lol) define (ie narrow) our terms or Humpty Dumpty and all the king's men, under the Queen of Hearts (House of Cards/Lords)?!? (aka that "State" of mind/"image"-a-nation/imagination) I "vote" for the first... hehehe as I vote for the word "vote" to mean: "a nod of consent or selection/choice" (where then, to take back further from Humpty: " ...it means just what I choose it to mean-- neither more nor less."! lol) key being, it's not the "nod" or the "vote" itself; only when said "nod" or "selection" is for empowering any to take another's freedom(s) is there a problem~ may we always seek "common sense" in our definitions, over daffynitions (usurpations) from Legalville. 2i2 now.. back to "topic"~ I actually haven't made my "selection" (voted) yet, not because it's a "vote", but rather, as it will be a toss between the big screen experience and the P2P "freedom" I "need" to more wisely (?) excercise~ [said freedom being financial lack and ant-I-nc ala anti-U.S.A.Inc. support "vote"; both of which are primarily Gov.Inc. problems] The Matrix was awesome in the cinematic experience, no doubt~ (but it's message comes thru loud and clear on the "small" screen...)
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Post by Darren Dirt on Mar 7, 2006 18:02:34 GMT -5
A friend lent me "Equilibrium"; if I had known of its theatrical release I would have loved to experience it on something larger than a 28 inch screen. With Vendetta I will not make the same mistake Oh, and "a vote" means, in general "A formal expression of preference"; "to vote" means, in general "To express a choice or an opinion". So it's not necessarily political Just like "freedom" means, in general "absence of restraint or coercion", not necessarily political only. www.thefreedictionary.com/votedictionary.reference.com/search?q=votewww.websters-online-dictionary.org/definition/vote
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Post by NonEntity on Mar 7, 2006 20:59:32 GMT -5
Oh, and "a vote" means, in general "A formal expression of preference" Whew! I was number 4, and I was affraid maybe I'd get excommunikated or something. - NonE
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Post by Darren Dirt on Mar 13, 2006 21:53:46 GMT -5
Woot! Something very inexpensive to "accidentally leave behind" on the coffee table the next time you visit your collectivist's friend's house... www.lfb.com/index.php?stocknumber=FN9030Item Number: FN9030 ISBN: 1416516999 List Price: $6.95 LFB Price Only: $6.95 V FOR VENDETTA (P) by Steve Moore based on the screenplay by the Wachowski Brothers Pocket Star, 2006, paperback In the not-too-distant future, Britain is ruled by a totalitarian government. Dressed in a long black cloak and a Guy Fawkes mask, a man known only as "V" strives to put a stop to the government's repression. But V is hardly a perfect protagonist. His mission for freedom is noble, but he does some despicable things along the way. V's modus operandi is more like that of a terrorist's than a superhero. It is this conflict of morality that makes V for Vendetta such an interesting story. This novelization is based on the new movie's screenplay. 358 pages
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Post by NonEntity on Mar 14, 2006 5:53:43 GMT -5
Someone creates a great [glow=red,2,300]Graphic Novel[/glow], then it gets made into a movie. Then the Movie gets made into a novel.
Bizzarro, d00d!
Just when you think the world can't get any stranger, BLAM, WHACK, ZONGO!@**(@~
- NonE
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Post by dvishnu on Mar 14, 2006 10:58:38 GMT -5
Not too distant future? Doesn't he really mean the present?
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Post by Darren Dirt on Mar 14, 2006 14:07:01 GMT -5
Not too distant future? Doesn't he really mean the present? My guess is around 60% of "opening day" movie reviews will include at least one of the following words: prescient timely symbolic Bush Bush + fascism Bush + fascism + terrorism
Bush + fascism + state-sponsored terrorism <-- ( infowars.com, rense.com etc. I'm guessing ) ... oh, and it's not so weird for the film back to written word... back and forth the greedy publishers go, where they stop the consumers don't know [whether it's worth buying the same story in a different package]. Personally, I'm tossing back and forth whether buying the screenplay novelization of Wheden's "Serenity" is worth it -- since the acting and directing totally made the movie experience for me, not just the dialog. :-\ - - - " I want *everyone* to *remember*, why they *need* us!" - evil leviathan statist Adam Sutler, played in "V For Vendetta" by John Hurt (ironic eh? He previously played Winston "fight the leviathan" Smith in 1984.)
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Post by dvishnu on Mar 14, 2006 14:38:11 GMT -5
Have you considered writing one from scratch? I'm sure it would be an awesome script....
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Post by Darren Dirt on Mar 18, 2006 8:51:54 GMT -5
V for Vendetta - Beautiful, intelligent, bold, graphic poetry.(17Mar2006) This film's excellent trailers could not have done it justice. The brilliant graphic novel has been skillfully adapted into an explosive Hollywood blockbuster, amazingly without diluting its plentiful tyranny-condemning dialogue. More quotable than Napoleon Dynamite, and more courageously in-your-face truth-telling than The Matrix. "Writers lie in order to tell the truth; governments lie to cover it up" etc. Well done, Natalie, Hugo, James, and of course Andy and Larry! You managed to stay faithful to the source, while taking full advantage of the unique strengths of the big screen. The original V's spirit is honoured by your inspiring work! P.S. "St. Mary's" = 911WTC/GroundZero. Keep that in mind as you experience this compelling, challenging, uplifting, and sometimes bloody modern work of art. - - - V: [introducing/explaining himself after first meeting Evey] This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, it is vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished, as the once vital voice of the verisimilitude now venerates what they once vilified. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified, and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose vis-a-vis an introduction, and so it is my very good honor to meet you and you may call me "V". Evey: Are you, like, a crazy person?
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