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Post by Neo on Apr 8, 2005 19:33:11 GMT -5
How like parties where people cover their faces with masks is communicating with strangers behind avatars / screen names.
Which one of you would be willing to all meet publicly if your travel, etc., was paid, so we could see and hear one another, so long as no one is allowed to reveal who they are on this message board?
Do you hide behind a "mask" for fear of Agent Smith or do you have other reasons and, if so, what are they?
I do it because it's a way of being free without the cost involved in doing so. Practical vs. coward's the issue.
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Post by surfsup on Apr 9, 2005 9:08:50 GMT -5
Who's Hiding? If the snoopers reeaally wanted to tag you, you don't think "they" have the tech? Everybody has Skeltons maybe thats why the mask. In this era of mega snooping it is getting tuffer to stay anomous. I think whats important is where your heart is at, and is it where it needs to be? cause there will be no stopping the snoopers if and when they decide to bust a move. And as you said its a way of being free without the cost of being involved. Could it be more of that "house arrest" mindset thats been going on esp. the last couple of years? Maybe.
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Post by Neo on Apr 9, 2005 11:05:44 GMT -5
They may have the technology if each computer has a number or "cookie" that identifies it, rather like a finger print, and that computer was not bought with cash. Also, there may be a way to determine the phone # or cable line from which that computer is connected, especially if one stays online long enough, rather like tracing a telephone call. I'd have to research this ...
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Post by sagas4 on Apr 9, 2005 23:16:26 GMT -5
Logs, Logs, and More Logs.
The only way to be "some-what invisible" online is to use a service provider that you can dial into who doesn't keep logs of what IP address was assigned to your machine that can be attached to an incoming phone call, or Dialup to your ISP then VPN to another provider and proxy through them, who also does not log this stuff. Dialup is not secure though because a wiretap at the Centrex could siphon packets with a sniffer. Even if you have a DHCP assigned address on a cable modem there is a log somewhere. Yes the can become massive quickly; that's why they are archived to DVD or some other high capacity offline storage device.
I have a little experience with computers, networks, and telephone systems, from watching very talented people I learned quickly that anything can be tracked if you want to track it.
Even PGP (which congress raised a ruckus about) can be broken given enough computing power and time. All that must be done is to siphon the packets and set another program to cracking.
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Post by klintock on Apr 10, 2005 4:56:50 GMT -5
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Post by learnin2 on Apr 10, 2005 7:59:51 GMT -5
Privacy. Or some semdlence of it.
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Post by tharrin on Apr 10, 2005 21:57:15 GMT -5
I don't know Neo. I figure I have made myself known well enough at the library, bookstores and Department of Motor Vehicles, that it is only a matter of time before they come-a-courting.
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Post by Neo on Apr 10, 2005 23:31:50 GMT -5
Reminds me of what a friend said today, essentially that the New World Order folk will do their own Holocaust soon meaning round-up and exterminate us good folk.
Do you have a gun, he asked.
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Post by tharrin on Apr 11, 2005 7:49:57 GMT -5
Odds are Neo, getting gunned down at the OK Corral might be okay for the cowpokes, but I am sure there are much more modern ways to eliminate the opposition.
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Winston Ward Johnson
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Post by Winston Ward Johnson on Apr 13, 2005 9:01:02 GMT -5
This suijurisfreeman don't wear no stinkin' mask!! I ain't hiding from no one! I exercise my claimed rights in the bright light of day for all to see. It's been 180 days since the Kentucky EPA served us papers about having 'waste tires' on our property. We are facing $225,000 per day in fines, let's see now 180 days times $225,000 comes to a total of $40,500,000 in possible fines. It's been 6 months but not a peep from our friends at the Kentucky EPA, I really wanted to play but I can't get them to step into my sandbox! ;D
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Post by Neo on Apr 13, 2005 15:15:35 GMT -5
He's my hero. - Mal, Firefly
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Post by sagas4 on Apr 19, 2005 17:17:09 GMT -5
Neo, PM Posted per your request. Saga.. Neo, As for the question. Some would likely have no problem meeting some of the folks here at one of Marc's conferences and I would hope to do so some time. As you are well aware it is sometimes difficult to battle the matrix alone. A Gulch (as Ayn Rand called it) may come in handy in the near future. Some of us already know each other here in person, as you are well aware; others through emails or other forums. Some are planning meetings, and others turned on some friends who they work with who also post here. Marc likely knows information about people who have ordered the book, unless ordered under an alias with a ghost address, and FRN's, Liberty Dollars, or Money Order. What's the purpose of the question Agent Smith?
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Post by Neo on Apr 20, 2005 0:35:28 GMT -5
My name ... is Neo.
It's purpose is merely to get people to think.
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Post by FellowBrowncoat on Apr 29, 2005 17:02:33 GMT -5
He's my hero. - Mal, Firefly Great line. Great scene. Great show. GREAT TRAILER! (it's gorram shiny, is what it is.)
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Post by FireflyQuoteSource on Apr 29, 2005 17:08:49 GMT -5
PS: ^ Source is episode "The Train Job" - average-bear.com/firefly/101.htmlSpoken by Mal with a real "whatever..." attitude. In response to Book saying of Simon, "That young man's very brave." After this, Book sucks up to Mal as well, and so in the end everybody is brave, la la la cue exciting violin-heavy scene-transition music...
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