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Post by Neo on Mar 5, 2005 19:38:32 GMT -5
Is the U.S. constitution a contract? If not? What is it?
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Post by ghost of Lysander on Mar 5, 2005 21:13:16 GMT -5
Well factually, according to the "supreme court", it is a "written instrument".
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Post by marc stevens on Mar 7, 2005 9:27:40 GMT -5
Four pieces of paper with ink scribbles on them.
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Post by Neo on Mar 7, 2005 11:05:04 GMT -5
What, then, are the sounds coming out of our leaders mouths, if not the "law"? Mere noises? Mere wind?
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Post by denizen on Mar 7, 2005 11:32:58 GMT -5
What, then, are the sounds coming out of our leaders mouths, if not the "law"? Mere noises? Mere wind? For those that wish/choose to be lead; I am happy for them. I don't wish to be lead, so please leave me out of it! |
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Post by sagas4 on Mar 7, 2005 12:55:42 GMT -5
To be objectively accurate, it is four pieces of HEMP Paper with scribbles on them. Also it was scribbled by people that are long since deceased.  |
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Post by sagas4 on Mar 7, 2005 13:08:56 GMT -5
What, then, are the sounds coming out of our leaders mouths, if not the "law"? Mere noises? Mere wind? Well, what is law except the written or spoken will of a group of men and women fond of calling themselves a legislature, or congress, or judges, and then force their will upon everyone through the use of violence inflicted upon you by other irrational men and women that call themselves the executive branch, or police, or some other such nonsense? |
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Post by chris on Mar 7, 2005 19:30:37 GMT -5
Something you can reject if dont want to be a party to. Like a speeding ticket.
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Post by tharrin on Mar 8, 2005 11:43:00 GMT -5
A contract was a written instrument (not like the constitution) signed by two consenting adults to govern (a readable instrument a judge could look over and determine if the contract was fulfilled) a certain transaction and define the parameters around (set the terms) said transaction.
The contract was suppose to keep the honest man honest. The down side to contracts is the "Bedazzled Priniciple." If I remember correctly it starred Dudley Moore and centered around his making a verbal contract with the devil to win the affections of his object of desire, a woman. Each time Dudley Moore, set the terms of the contract, the devil accepted them and then fulfilled the contract but always in a way that was disatisfying to Dudley Moore. Each time the contract went sour Dudley Moore complained that wasn't what he meant and the devil would explain that he had not been specific enough.
So contracts were nothing more that ways to protect oneself in transactions because men can be dishonest and dishonorable.
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Post by Winston Ward Johnson on Mar 8, 2005 13:55:55 GMT -5
Is the U.S. constitution a contract? If not? What is it? I'll leave it to others to define exactly what the U.S. Constitution is, but it's certainly something that I'm not a party to. I didn't sign it, I didn't swear an oath to support of defend it. None of my natural, inherent and inalienable claimed rights are derived or dependent upon the U.S. Constitution. Scraps of paper, nothing but scraps of paper! ;D |
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Post by Rizzotherat on Mar 8, 2005 17:49:50 GMT -5
Something you can reject if dont want to be a party to. Like a speeding ticket. People who speed and sometimes get a speeding ticket endanger other peoples lives. Speeding is a bad thing to do, and you don't need a "law" or a contract to make it so. If someone chooses to speed and this causes damage to others and then this someone rejects it because they don't want to be a party to it, then they are irresponsible, dangerous, and deliberate. |
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Post by Neo on Mar 8, 2005 19:39:45 GMT -5
Amen.
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Post by JUDGE MENTAL on Mar 8, 2005 22:21:45 GMT -5
People who speed and sometimes get a speeding ticket endanger other peoples lives. Speeding is a bad thing to do, and you don't need a "law" or a contract to make it so. If someone chooses to speed and this causes damage to others and then this someone rejects it because they don't want to be a party to it, then they are irresponsible, dangerous, and deliberate. Depends on your definition of "speeding", doesn`t it ? J M |
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Post by weis on Mar 8, 2005 22:54:04 GMT -5
Speeding? Heck, I was charged w/
"UNLAWFUL SPEED" Fl St 316.189(2)
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Post by KaosTheory on Mar 9, 2005 0:18:39 GMT -5
I'm not sure where this thread is going now.
Are you guys saying that a speeding ticket a contract?
What does speeding have to do with the constitution?
What does someone driving irresponsibly and causing injury to someone else and then not accepting responsibility to make that person whole have to do with the definition of a contract?
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