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Post by ayanrand on Apr 28, 2006 12:06:19 GMT -5
Authority To Confiscate Guns During Emergencies Considered(Yeah, "emergencies" like government losing it's monopoly on theft, rape and murder)
OKLAHOMA CITY -- An Oklahoma legislator said he hopes to make some changes to a new law that makes it illegal for authorities to confiscate weapons during a state of emergency.
<http://www.channeloklahoma.com/news/9023840/detail.html#>Survey: What Do You Think?
State Rep. Mike Shelton said House Bill 2696 has placed the power of the law into the wrong hands.
"During states of emergency, I think police need total control. They don't need to worry who has guns and who doesn't. If the governor calls for Oklahomans to relinquish their guns, the public needs to do so," Shelton said.
That was the idea in Louisiana after Hurricane Katrina, when police confiscated guns from residents even if they were legal. This new Oklahoma law removes that power.
"What's the reason of owning a gun if they're just going to take it away from you," said King's Pawn and Gun Shop owner David Hasel.
Hasel said the new law is better for Oklahoma and registered-gun owners. He said that before this legislation, criminals had special treatment.
"Why should the criminals have guns and not the law-abiding citizens?" he asked.
Shelton said his battle is not over, and he intends not only to ask the governor to veto HB2696 but also to overturn the stand-your-ground bill.
The stand-your-ground law has already passed the Senate. It would allow you to protect yourself with lethal force if you feel threatened in a public place, such as a mall or a restaurant.
Shelton said it's up to law enforcement to protect citizens in public places.
The bill is in the House and expected to pass.
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Post by sagas4 on Apr 28, 2006 12:30:24 GMT -5
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Post by Darren Dirt on Apr 28, 2006 18:10:02 GMT -5
Shelton said it's up to law enforcement to protect citizens in public places. Who wants to wager that Shelton would rely on "law enforcement" to protect him if he is walking down a back alley one night and an angry gunshop owner starts following him down that alley... :-\
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Post by Darren Dirt on May 1, 2006 17:33:11 GMT -5
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Post by ayanrand on May 8, 2006 7:45:34 GMT -5
www.nwcn.com/topstories/stories/NW_050606WABtaser_lawsuitSW.17678528.htmlDiabetic woman sues Redmond Police over taser incident 05:48 PM PDT on Saturday, May 6, 2006 By DREW MIKKELSEN zzz/ KING 5 News Video www.nwcn.com/sharedcontent/VideoPlayer/videoPlayer.php?vidId=63786&catId=230Drew Mikkelsen reports More ... Custom Video ... SEATTLE - Last July, Redmond Police wanted to speak with the driver of a convertible, who caused a fender bender at the intersection of 148th Avenue Northeast and Northeast Redmond Way. But when they approached the locked, driver's side of the car, she did not respond to their commands. What happened over the next 10 minutes, which was captured on tape by a police dash cam, has now prompted a $1 million lawsuit against the city. Attorney James Egan is representing Leila Fuchs, the 34-year-old driver of the car. "She's non-responsive. He's knocking on the window," said Egan, looking at the videotape. Leila Fuchs is taken away by police after being tased. She says she was unresponsive because she was in diabetic shock. The tape shows a Redmond officer trying to break her window. When he eventually gets into the car, he uses his taser, which delivers a 50,000-watt jolt of electricity via two probes attached to wires. If you look closely at the video, you can see her head, which had been still, begin to shake. "That's when the officer said she was screaming and stiffening her body, which is what happens when you get electrocuted," said Egan. Police then dragged Fuchs from the car, laid her on the ground and handcuffed her. Egan says Redmond police were negligent and used excessive force on an innocent woman with medical problems. "I think it's an outrageous injustice," he said. "She's wearing shorts, she's wearing a t-shirt, she doesn't have anything in her hands, and she's essentially non-responsive. She's looking straight ahead and not at him. She's not gnashing her teeth. She's not clawing in the air. She's doing nothing to present a threat." Fuchs did not sustain any permanent physically injuries, but is now reportedly become afraid of police and has become reclusive. A call to the Redmond city attorney was not immediately returned.
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Post by ayanrand on May 13, 2006 9:29:40 GMT -5
Spy Agency Watching Americans From Space apnews.myway.com/article/20060513/D8HIRAK80.htmlWASHINGTON (AP) - A little-known spy agency that analyzes imagery taken from the skies has been spending significantly more time watching U.S. soil. In an era when other intelligence agencies try to hide those operations, the director of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, retired Air Force Lt. Gen. James Clapper, is proud of that domestic mission. He said the work the agency did after hurricanes Rita and Katrina was the best he'd seen an intelligence agency do in his 42 years in the spy business. "This was kind of a direct payback to the taxpayers for the investment made in this agency over the years, even though in its original design it was intended for foreign intelligence purposes," Clapper said in a Thursday interview with The Associated Press. (AP) Reitired Air Force Gen. James R. Clapper, outgoing head of the National Geospatial Intelligence... Full Image Geospatial intelligence is the science of combining imagery, such as satellite pictures, to physically depict features or activities happening anywhere on the planet. A part of the Defense Department, the NGA usually operates unnoticed to provide information on nuclear sites, terror camps, troop movements or natural disasters. After last year's hurricanes, the agency had an unusually public face. It set up mobile command centers that sprung out of the backs of Humvees and provided imagery for rescuers and hurricane victims who wanted to know the condition of their homes. Victims would provide their street address and the NGA would provide a satellite photo of their property. In one way or another, some 900 agency officials were involved. Spy agencies historically avoided domestic operations out of concern for Pentagon regulations and Reagan-era executive order, known as 12333, that restricted intelligence collection on American citizens and companies. Its budget, like all intelligence agencies, is classified. On Clapper's watch of the last five years, his agency has found ways to expand its mission to help prepare security at Super Bowls and political conventions or deal with natural disasters, such as hurricanes and forest fires. With help, the agency can also zoom in. Its officials cooperate with private groups, such as hotel security, to get access to footage of a lobby or ballroom. That video can then be linked with mapping and graphical data to help secure events or take action, if a hostage situation or other catastrophe happens. (AP) Reitired Air Force Gen. James R. Clapper, outgoing head of the National Geospatial Intelligence... Full Image Privacy advocates wonder how much the agency picks up - and stores. Many are increasingly skeptical of intelligence agencies with recent revelations about the Bush administration's surveillance on phone calls and e-mails. Among the government's most closely guarded secrets, the quality of pictures NGA receives from classified satellites is believed to far exceed the one-meter resolution available commercially. That means they can take a satellite "snapshot" from high above the atmosphere that is crisply detailed down to one meter level, which is 3.3 feet. Clapper says his agency only does big pictures, so concerns about using the NGA's foreign intelligence apparatus at home doesn't apply. "We are not trying to examine an individual dwelling, for example, because what our mission is normally going to be is looking at large areas," he said. "It doesn't really affect or threaten anyone's privacy or civil liberties when you are looking at a large collective area." When asked what additional powers he'd ask Congress for, he said, "I wouldn't." (AP) Reitired Air Force Gen. James R. Clapper, outgoing head of the National Geospatial Intelligence... Full Image His agency also handles its historic mission: regional threats, such as Iran and North Korea; terrorist hideouts; and tracking drug trade. "Everything and everybody has to be some place," he said. He considers his brand of intelligence a chess match. "There are sophisticated nation states that have a good understanding of our surveillance capabilities," including Iran, he said. "What we have to do is counter that" by taking advantage of anomalies or sending spy planes and satellites over more frequently. Adversaries who hide their most important facilities underground is a trend the agency has to work at, he said. NGA was once a stepchild of the intelligence community. But Clapper said it has come into its own and become an equal partner with the other spy agencies, such as the CIA. Experience-wise, the agency is among the youngest of the spy agencies. About 40 percent of the agency's analyst have been hired in the last five years. "They are very inexperienced, and that's just fine. They don't have any baggage," said Clapper, who retires next month as the longest serving agency director. "The people that we are getting now are bright, computer literate. ... That is not something I lie awake and worry about."
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Post by ayanrand on May 16, 2006 19:15:13 GMT -5
Mayor Accused Of Discounting Water Bills For Sex www.todaysthv.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=28597The 72-year-old mayor of Waldron has been charged with patronizing a prostitute and abusing the public trust for allegedly using his official position to obtain sex. Assistant Prosecuting Attorney John Riedel said Mayor Troy Anderson was charged Monday in Scott County Circuit Court with four counts of patronizing a prostitute, a misdemeanor, and two counts of abuse of the public trust, a felony. The allegations involve two women. A state police affidavit says that in one case, Anderson gave a woman with whom he was having sex special treatment on her city water bill and also paid her for sex. The state police affidavit says that in another case, Anderson tried to solicit sex from a woman for several years because of her delinquent water account and later paid her $100 for sex.
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Post by Darren Dirt on May 17, 2006 16:06:03 GMT -5
these 2 articles by Liz Michael seem to describe a dozen or so activities that the terrorcrats are likely to justify somehow by claiming in some completely illogical but amazingly accepted-by-the-masses way, "It's for your protection..." (For example, #1 Disarming The People, #6 Obstruction of aid, 7 Obstruction of escape...) part1 www.lizmichael.com/shooting.htm part2 www.lizmichael.com/birdword.htmPS: Not condoning the actions that Liz condones in the above, of course. Most of us including myself firmly believe that ideas and peaceful actions are the best (maybe only) way things will truly get better, especially on a permanent basis.
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Post by ayanrand on May 19, 2006 7:24:53 GMT -5
www.thewbalchannel.com/news/9229472/detail.htmlCouple Arrested For Asking For Directions POSTED: 7:23 am EDT May 17, 2006 UPDATED: 10:52 am EDT May 17, 2006 BALTIMORE -- Baltimore City police arrested a Virginia couple over the weekend after they asked an officer for directions. WBAL-TV 11 News I-Team reporter David Collins said Joshua Kelly and Llara Brook, of Chantilly, Va., got lost leaving an Orioles game on Saturday. Collins reported a city officer arrested them for trespassing on a public street while they were asking for directions . "In jail for eight hours -- sleeping on a concrete floor next to a toilet," Kelly said. "It was a nightmare," Brook said. "I was in there thinking I was just dreaming and waiting to wake up." Collins reported it was a nightmare ending to a nearly perfect day. He said the couple went to a company picnic and watched the Orioles beat Kansas City. It was their first trip to Camden Yards and asked two people for directions to Interstate 95 South when they left. Collins said somehow they ended up in the Cherry Hill section of south Baltimore. Hopelessly lost, relief melted away concerns after they spotted a police vehicle. "I said, 'Thank goodness, could you please get us to 95?" Kelly said. "The first thing that she said to us was no -- you just ran that stop sign, pull over," Brook said. "It wasn't a big deal. We'll pay the stop sign violation, but can we have directions?" "What she said was 'You found your own way in here, you can find your own way out.'" Kelly said. Collins said the couple spotted another police vehicle and flagged that officer down for directions. But Officer Natalie Preston, a six-year veteran of the force, intervened. "That really threw us for a loop when she stepped in between our cars," Kelly said. "(She) said my partner is not going to step in front of me and tell you directions if I'm not." Collins reported the circumstances got worse. Kelly pulled 40 feet forward parking next to a curb and put his flashers on while Brook was on the phone to her father hoping he could help her with directions. Both her parents are police officers in the Harrisburg, Pa., area. "(Brook's father) was in the middle of giving us directions when the officer screeched up behind us and got out of the car and asked me to step out. I obeyed," Kelly said. "I obeyed everything -- stepped out of the car, put my hands behind my back, and the next thing I know, I was getting arrested for trespassing." "By this time, I was completely in tears," Brook said. "I said, 'Ma'am, you know, we just need your help. We are not trying to cause you any trouble. I'm not leaving him here.' What she did was walk over to my side of the car and said, 'Ok, we are taking you downtown, too.'" Collins said the couple was released from jail without being charged with anything. Brook is now concerned the arrest may complicate a criminal background check she's going through in her job as a child care worker. Collins said police left Kelly's car unlocked and the windows down at the impound lot. He reported a cell phone charger, pair of sunglasses and 20 CDs were stolen. Baltimore City police said they are looking into the incident.
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Post by ayanrand on May 19, 2006 8:05:05 GMT -5
www.thewbalchannel.com/news/9229472/detail.htmlCouple Arrested For Asking For Directions POSTED: 7:23 am EDT May 17, 2006 UPDATED: 10:52 am EDT May 17, 2006 BALTIMORE -- Baltimore City police arrested a Virginia couple over the weekend after they asked an officer for directions. WBAL-TV 11 News I-Team reporter David Collins said Joshua Kelly and Llara Brook, of Chantilly, Va., got lost leaving an Orioles game on Saturday. Collins reported a city officer arrested them for trespassing on a public street while they were asking for directions . "In jail for eight hours -- sleeping on a concrete floor next to a toilet," Kelly said. "It was a nightmare," Brook said. "I was in there thinking I was just dreaming and waiting to wake up." Collins reported it was a nightmare ending to a nearly perfect day. He said the couple went to a company picnic and watched the Orioles beat Kansas City. It was their first trip to Camden Yards and asked two people for directions to Interstate 95 South when they left. Collins said somehow they ended up in the Cherry Hill section of south Baltimore. Hopelessly lost, relief melted away concerns after they spotted a police vehicle. "I said, 'Thank goodness, could you please get us to 95?" Kelly said. "The first thing that she said to us was no -- you just ran that stop sign, pull over," Brook said. "It wasn't a big deal. We'll pay the stop sign violation, but can we have directions?" "What she said was 'You found your own way in here, you can find your own way out.'" Kelly said. Collins said the couple spotted another police vehicle and flagged that officer down for directions. But Officer Natalie Preston, a six-year veteran of the force, intervened. "That really threw us for a loop when she stepped in between our cars," Kelly said. "(She) said my partner is not going to step in front of me and tell you directions if I'm not." Collins reported the circumstances got worse. Kelly pulled 40 feet forward parking next to a curb and put his flashers on while Brook was on the phone to her father hoping he could help her with directions. Both her parents are police officers in the Harrisburg, Pa., area. "(Brook's father) was in the middle of giving us directions when the officer screeched up behind us and got out of the car and asked me to step out. I obeyed," Kelly said. "I obeyed everything -- stepped out of the car, put my hands behind my back, and the next thing I know, I was getting arrested for trespassing." "By this time, I was completely in tears," Brook said. "I said, 'Ma'am, you know, we just need your help. We are not trying to cause you any trouble. I'm not leaving him here.' What she did was walk over to my side of the car and said, 'Ok, we are taking you downtown, too.'" Collins said the couple was released from jail without being charged with anything. Brook is now concerned the arrest may complicate a criminal background check she's going through in her job as a child care worker. Collins said police left Kelly's car unlocked and the windows down at the impound lot. He reported a cell phone charger, pair of sunglasses and 20 CDs were stolen. Baltimore City police said they are looking into the incident. Marge: "I thought you said the law was powerless. " Chief Wiggum: "Powerless to *help* you, not punish you. " --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chief Wiggum: [answer machine] "9-1-1. This better be good." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chief Wiggum: "OK, then. Where's Sideshow Bob?" Prisoner: "Eh, he ran off. " Chief Wiggum: "Oh, great. Well, if anyone asks, I uh, beat him to death. " --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chief Wiggum: [after pulling over Troy McClure] "I'll tear this ticket up, but I'm, um, still going to have to ask you for a bribe. " --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chief Wiggum: [speaking on megaphone] "Attention hippies. Come out peacefully so we can smash your drug mill and all your worldly possessions." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chief Wiggum: "Where on my badge does it say anything about protecting people?" --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Homer: "That's it. This job is too dangerous. I'm giving this badge to the first person I see." Chief Wiggum: "That's funny because this is how I got this job the first time." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chief Wiggum: "Well, boys, it looks like we solved the mystery of the missing ham. " Marge: "You guys are the world's worst cops! " Chief Wiggum: "No, now that I'm off-duty, I'm the world's worst soccer coach." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Post by Darren Dirt on May 23, 2006 15:38:47 GMT -5
"protect us all", of course... Pastor Butch Paugh (isn't he on RBN?) got a tip from a fellow pastor, exposing a FEMA plan to use them (Pastors) to pacify cowboy farmers when martial law is declared... www.infowars.com/articles/ps/fema_plan_use_pastors_pacify_farmers_martial_law.htm*Plum Island: I did a Wikipedia lookup -- presumeably it's the NY island , not Mass. ... who knows what research/experiments might be going on in this extremely restricted island... "The Plum Island Animal Disease Center is located on Plum Island. The center conducts research on animal pathogens in order to protect farmers, ranchers, and the national food supply. Due to the nature of the research, access to the island and the research facility is restricted..."
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Post by Darren Dirt on May 24, 2006 11:47:33 GMT -5
speaking of protection... New defense system that acts like futuristic 'force field' against inbound rounds will be trial tested in Iraq to try to better protect our troops"Scotty, I need more power to the shields!" ;D Hey Rummy, I guess this is why you refused to spend money on decent armour -- cuz you're giving them force fields now! Hey Rummy, I guess this is why you refused to spend money on decent armour -- cuz you're giving them force fields now! New defense system that acts like futuristic 'force field' against inbound rounds will be trial tested in Iraq to try to better protect our troops "developed by Israel, the system is called 'Trophy'... designed to provide a virtual bubble of protection ... When the threat comes within range, Trophy uses a top secret countermeasure...""Scotty, I need more power to the shields!" ;D
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Post by Darren Dirt on May 24, 2006 14:35:21 GMT -5
"For your protection, we must remove this video and its controversial claims from the public's fragile eyes and minds..." Pepperspray Productions Pulls Video About The Killing Of Innocents Recounted By Iraqi Veteran, Jessie Macbethwww.arcticbeacon.com/24-May-2006.html
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Post by dvishnu on May 24, 2006 14:55:40 GMT -5
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Post by Darren Dirt on May 24, 2006 15:10:30 GMT -5
"Almost predictable, so I guess the big question is...... ......Cointelpro -or just some dumb kid on the make?" ^ VERY good question! Either way, it will be used by the administration to dismiss *legitimate* questions, and to discourage *actual* whistleblowers... Dangit I can't believe the alternative media "fell for it" again. "And speaking of COINTEL PRO, I found that http://www.peacefilms.org./ has "apparantly" closed their web site. At least today, all I get is a image of the globe, no text, no links, no nuthin'." <-- I discovered that too. Reminds me of something. Hmmm... What was that website that shut down very soon after that under-reported possibly-disinfo story a year ago?... *cough*TalonNews*cough*... Argh! Well, maybe it is time to *laugh* at this situation -- " Seems he really was in the Rangers allright. Not the US Army Rangers, but the 'Power Rangers'..." A bunch of updates to this story found here and here (including a mention that YouTube can still be trusted to host a debunking response that includes clips from the original 'interview' -- along with a *legit* 6 minute video that aired on BBC called " IVAW War Veterans And The Practice Of Killing Civilians". - - - Remember, folks... Focus on the PHYSICS of 911, and the IMMORALITY of any government actions... That's the only way to prevent being used in this kind of way...
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