Austin seminar - no plaintiff necessary

[marc stevens]

I'm back in the land of copper and cotton again.

Austin was great and I owe the people there a huge thank you for making it such a cool trip. I also want to thank James and the folks at Republic Broadcasting for the opportunity.

A bunch of use went to the "county" court the next day (Tuesday) to watch a friend go through a "hearing." Using a script I had used before, he asked a number of questions. The judge answered most responsively despite a nasty objection from the lawyer pretending to represent the "state." He wanted a non-lawyer to be held in contempt for asking some questions. Go figure.

Well, the judge stopped the "hearing" after only a few minutes. Amazingly enough, this judge actually said, in front on about 35 people, AND with a straight face, THERE WAS NO PLAINTIFF.

Yes, there you have it, no adversary in an adversary system. It's no surprise this juris doctorate with a black robe would not answer any more questions.

It reminds me of that scene from My Cousin Vinny: "No more questions for YOU."

Anyway, I also got to see and take pictures of the Stevie Ray Vaughn statue.

[kgod999]

is this script in the book u offer?

[KaosTheory]

Well what was the outcome? Did they just steamroll him and find him guilty of.........whatever?

This was a probable cause hearing?

[marc stevens]

The book does not have full scripts. There are select questions from various scripts though. Knowing the basic concepts from the book enables people to write their own.

The outcome was the case being set for trial. It was more of a status hearing than anything else. I don't know what paperwork he will file. I would move to dismiss on the basis there is no adversary. There is a lawyer in court the judge has stated does not represent anyone. Sounds like a fair trial doesn't it?

It's hard to keep from laughing when they spew forth things like that. Because the lawyer with the robe went immediately "off the record", I'm sure he figured out he'd been played. And worst of all, he was played by a non-lawyer. ;D

[outfitter]

Marc,

I am interested in obtaining a copy of your questions for administrative court lawyers in black robes. A friend of mine attended your seminar here in Austin,... wish I could have made it.
I will send you a money order for the book as well.
Also, I was able to catch your interview on a local station.

Thanks,
CSP

[tru2form]

Congratulations on the outcome Marc.
It is inspiring to hear this happening whilst the date for our debut down here draws closer...
My money's on seeing yet another instance of an anger management problem...
This fellow hasn't been known for his humility. ;D
tru

[marc stevens]

An anger management problem, couldn't imagine why ;D

Having as many people in there to watch helps keeps the emotion down. There was a fun house in the Austin court. They delayed the hearing for about an hour and kept asking if anybody in the court was there for jury duty.

After the judge said there was no plaintiff he said they were "off the record" and that he'd had enough. I think he was on his best behaviour because there were so many people there.

If you can, get as many people to come to court with you and have them dress in a suit and bring a briefcase with them. All they need in the brief case is a clip board and pen they can take out when the judge is watching. If he asks who they are, they only reply, "I here to observe."

[KaosTheory]

How much success have you had in getting video cameras into the court room?

[NonEntity]

I was in a criminal court room in Utah this summer for an arraignment hearing on the fellow that murdered a friend of mine and they would not allow me to carry in the still camera I had hanging on my shoulder. I was told "no cameras, period." Don't know about anyplace else.

[KaosTheory]

My question is, isn't this a public place? Why can't you take pictures? I mean I know why they don't want you to. What can we do about it?

[bondman]

It is my custom to file three motions when responding to traffic issues, one is a motion and demand for a complaint (according to Texas Code of Criminal Procedure), two is a motion and demand for an information (which is the only constitutional basis to obtain jurisdiction in Texas) and three is a motion to dismiss as items one and two are missing from the court record, thus prima facia evidence that I have not been charged with anything.

I have had an occasion to see the "light" go on in the head of a JP when responding to their threat to find me guilty anyway, when I mention the fact that my motions were entered into the record without objection from the STATE OF TEXAS. I then asked where was the STATE OF TEXAS to make a motion for summary judgement?

Needless to say, this one got dismissed.

[marc stevens]

Yeah, even though the rules permit video cameras, judges refuse to permit them. What is funny is there are ALREADY cameras in the court rooms. In one court, there are monitors in the lobby. The professional parasites just don't want their victims to have footage. if you don't own the building there isn't anything that can be done about it.

Nice job Bondman

[Millard Fillmore]

Great stuff in this thread everyone. How about some sort of posting of people in this forum and/or who have read "Adventures" in different areas of the country so that if someone has a court "hearing," he/she can get some support from some local people?

[Neo]

They're called Court Watchers, i.e., those who sit in the peanut gallery, or "the jury of public opinion," the only thing "judges" fear.

[marc stevens]

Guest-Millard said:

Great stuff in this thread everyone. How about some sort of posting of people in this forum and/or who have read "Adventures" in different areas of the country so that if someone has a court "hearing," he/she can get some support from some local people?

Great idea.