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Post by Dirt on Jan 20, 2005 16:08:03 GMT -5
www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/01/20050120-1.htmlWow, in the span of 2 minutes: "Eventually, the call of freedom comes to every mind and every soul. We do not accept the existence of permanent tyranny* because we do not accept the possibility of permanent slavery. Liberty will come to those who love it." *tyranny - dictionary definition from Wordnet ( www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn?stage=1&word=tyranny ) 2. absolutism, tyranny, despotism -- (dominance through threat of punishment and violence) and "The leaders of governments with long habits of control need to know: To serve your people you must learn to trust them..." I didn't know that if someone controls me against my consent, that they are somehow serving me! So I guess, um, does that mean George was talking about himself when addressing certain "leaders of governments"? 
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Post by Harry on Jan 20, 2005 19:26:42 GMT -5
Keep in mind at all times, he believes in the hoax, or he wouldn't be where he is. So his perspectives on things, and sometimes the ways he uses words, will be different from what we presume on this board.
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Post by tharrin on Jan 21, 2005 11:06:00 GMT -5
I have never heard liberty & freedom used so loosely in any speech. Bush is just a pawn in the bigger picture. He is a figurehead for us to focus on. It is the manipulators behind the scenes that are the real concern.
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Post by marc stevens on Jan 22, 2005 11:17:59 GMT -5
True Tharrin. Though we can only assume that the guy pretending to be "president of the United States" believes in the hoax. I think, can't prove it though, that the higher up on the political pecking order, the more the bureaucrats tend to know.
Cops and prosecutors don't seem to have a clue. Black-robed lawyers tend to know a bit more. I believe the lawyers who get the robes have been around and have seen how things work and kept their mouths shut about it.
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Post by surfsup on Jan 22, 2005 12:44:42 GMT -5
Seeing as the Whole Family was giving the index/pinky salute, there seems to be a nod as to where their real alligance lies (opp's that was the Tex longhorn salute, sorry) Aloha
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Post by Hairy on Jan 22, 2005 15:53:04 GMT -5
Huh?
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Post by tharrin on Jan 22, 2005 17:27:24 GMT -5
Agreed Marc, but so long as those in supposed power hold the reins, the system benefits their bottom line and so long as they are willing to violently force you into compliance, then it has to be presumed they are in power.
Even if you do expose their behind the scenes machinations, I am reasonably certain they won't suddenly say, "Darn you caught us, I guess we'll leave you alone now."
More likely is, the veil will come off or the curtain will lift and the nazi-like tactics will be instituted. If, by the way, those reading this forum don't believe it is that bad already, I highly suggest you browse the various patriot movements out there and see what happens when you oppose the powers that be. Many languish in jail as we speak or have been picked of by sniper-fire for just wanting to live free.
Remember that group of men who rose up against the king of england back in the 1700's, that king didn't suddenly pack up and go when the supposed english subjects said they wouldn't be tax or ruled by them any longer.
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Post by vollytarry on Jan 24, 2005 11:31:32 GMT -5
Seeing as the Whole Family was giving the index/pinky salute, there seems to be a nod as to where their real alligance lies (opp's that was the Tex longhorn salute, sorry) Aloha Meaning the occult-symbolizing "sign of the devil" as they say? Like Clinton did before him? Anyone have a URL with a photo of this, i.e. Heir Bush signalling to his masters that they've got "4 more years" to wreak havoc on liberty? |
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Post by Darren Dirt on Jan 24, 2005 11:46:40 GMT -5
At what point in the coronation, oops I mean inauguration, did George give that particular hand signal? Just curious. I asked a colleague at work, without context or reason, what he thought the hand signal meant. This is a pretty easy-going guy (no religious fundamentalist or anything by any stretch) and he immediately identified it as "some satanic thing", not just "hey guys it's all good" or similar. But hey, what about the contents of the speech? Any further AiLL-related thoughts? Obviously George has bought into the "hoax" and everything, but does anyone else think it was peppered with all that re-defined "freedom" doublespeak to signal to the other "leaders" that things are gonna get even more tyrannical? Like "Hey guys we have 1460 days left, let's make it count! Let's keep forcing freedom on other so-called nations!" etc.  - - - ...added after reading the fullt text of the speech... Um, wait, does this "freedom" of which Mr. Bush speaks entitle me to take my neighbor's car or home, simlpy because I "want" it? Freedom from "want" is the root of all socialistic foolishness; nice snow job Mr. Bush, I'm sure most of your "fellow citizens" didn't catch your redefining of "freedom" to suit your expanding-government purposes...  America: rewriting history and interpretation of language since 1900-something... |
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Post by marc stevens on Jan 24, 2005 17:58:59 GMT -5
Agreed Marc, but so long as those in supposed power hold the reins, the system benefits their bottom line and so long as they are willing to violently force you into compliance, then it has to be presumed they are in power. Even if you do expose their behind the scenes machinations, I am reasonably certain they won't suddenly say, "Darn you caught us, I guess we'll leave you alone now." More likely is, the veil will come off or the curtain will lift and the nazi-like tactics will be instituted. If, by the way, those reading this forum don't believe it is that bad already, I highly suggest you browse the various patriot movements out there and see what happens when you oppose the powers that be. Many languish in jail as we speak or have been picked of by sniper-fire for just wanting to live free. Remember that group of men who rose up against the king of england back in the 1700's, that king didn't suddenly pack up and go when the supposed english subjects said they wouldn't be tax or ruled by them any longer. Keep in mind that only a very small percentage of people participated in the war. Ol' George and his gang of anti-socials would have been powerless to continue controlling people if a majority refused to submit and be controlled. It is no different today: "Those puny ants outnumber us a hundred to one and if they ever figure that out, there goes our way of life!" Hopper, A Bug's Life. If a sufficient number of people woke up and refused to submit and help those who would control them, then how would the Nazi's be paid? A cop is probably not going to beat you within an inch of your life if he is not going to be getting his weekly blood money, I mean salary. If enough people woke up and refused to participate, there wouldn't be enough money or man power. |
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Post by marc stevens on Jan 24, 2005 18:03:10 GMT -5
Is it me, or is it hypocrisy for a man who provides his services at the barrel of a gun to talk about freedom and liberty? Really Mr. "President"? Are people free to NOT get and pay for your wonderful services? And what happens to someone who doesn't want your particular "protection" and chooses to not "contribute" to your salary? Are those people "free" to then inhabit one of your prisons? |
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Post by tharrin on Jan 24, 2005 20:02:58 GMT -5
So Marc, how do we get King George to release his subjects?
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Post by lazerwood on Jan 24, 2005 20:47:47 GMT -5
>>"how do we get King George to release his subjects"<< Until Marc comes aboard I'll volunteer a "my 2-cents worth"... When his "subjects" desire their freedom more than their "comforts" his "release" will be irrelevant.  |
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Post by lavender on Jan 25, 2005 6:56:37 GMT -5
TEXT  The passing of the most recent "freedom depriving" legislation that went through congress, that was not even read by many of the members who gave their ok, to this "national id" card, amongst the other items that have been derived to delete any chance of justice or fairness or perhaps even living another day under the rule of those "controlled" by their secret society edicts with the agenda for new world order complete control of everybody!!! Do these measures apply to anything outside the "Federal United States" in Washington D.C. or are all of the states going to hand over control merrily while going along with what emperor, or high grand marshall Busch says? It's no wonder so many Americans are looking for alternative places to go to in the event of a "national emergency" or when bankers go public with the announcement that they own everything!!!
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Post by marc stevens on Jan 25, 2005 11:20:13 GMT -5
>>"how do we get King George to release his subjects"<< Until Marc comes aboard I'll volunteer a "my 2-cents worth"... When his "subjects" desire their freedom more than their "comforts" his "release" will be irrelevant. Of course. ;D ;D |
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The passing of the most recent "freedom depriving" legislation that went through congress, that was not even read by many of the members who gave their ok, to this "national id" card, amongst the other items that have been derived to delete any chance of justice or fairness or perhaps even living another day under the rule of those "controlled" by their secret society edicts with the agenda for new world order complete control of everybody!!! Do these measures apply to anything outside the "Federal United States" in Washington D.C. or are all of the states going to hand over control merrily while going along with what emperor, or high grand marshall Busch says? It's no wonder so many Americans are looking for alternative places to go to in the event of a "national emergency" or when bankers go public with the announcement that they own everything!!!