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Post by Neo on Jan 14, 2005 11:59:35 GMT -5
How do we orginize and get congress to abolish the war powers act? "We" (if there is such a thing) don't. All political activity (use of the system) supports the system simply by making use of it. Once sufficient numbers stop using it, it will have no alternative but to convert to a true free market or go out of business. |
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Post by Darren Dirt on Jan 14, 2005 18:48:33 GMT -5
Truly inspirational, and inspirationally true: "... you put forth an idea which lodges in the Unbewusstsein of a casual member of the Remnant and sticks fast there. For some time it is inert; then it begins to fret and fester until presently it invades the man's conscious mind and, as one might say, corrupts it. Meanwhile, he has quite forgotten how be came by the idea in the first instance, and even perhaps thinks he has invented it; and in those circumstances, the most interesting thing of all is that you never know what the pressure of that idea will make him do. " |
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Post by sagas4 on Jan 15, 2005 3:01:28 GMT -5
DD,
Which reminds me of something Sam Adams said; This belongs in the Quotes thread but I think it would fit here as well.
"It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." - Samuel Adams
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Post by goldenrule on Jan 20, 2005 12:16:45 GMT -5
I had a phone conversation today with a lawyer who represents men and women DBA the "IRS." He claimed government authority is brute force. Who am I to argue? I asked him why he believed the government (he agreed it was just men and women) had a right to Mr. X's property and he told me, "because we can take it." He believes the "law" and "constitution" are ultimately irrelevant to create a tax liability because the obligation is created by nothing more than the fact the "IRS" can just take the property by force. I asked him what the difference was between the US gov't and groups like the mafia and he said only that the US gov't is bigger and has more guns. When I asked if there would be an obligation if there was no constitution he only replied, "Then there would be no limit to what we could do." I asked him if he was willing to put his opinions in writing or present them in open court and he said he didn't have to, everyone knows government is brute force and does not rely on consent. "We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force." [Ayn Rand, The Nature of Government] |
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Post by surfsup on Jan 22, 2005 13:15:55 GMT -5
"Waiting for the surf to build on the Northern Shore" brings to mind a novel plan/fantasy. Take ALL of these brute's to a south Pacific island and NO BODY leaves until they can complete a 8 second tube ride (could you see Ted Kennedy trying to paddle into a 10 foot west swell wave at Pipeline?) they, by the time of acomplishing(years) this, would either be gone, or they just wouldn't care about all this uselessness, cause they would be having too much fun and would begin to appreciate life for the precious gift that it is!  |
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Post by tharrin on Jan 22, 2005 17:55:44 GMT -5
Unfortunately, it is more likely that they will huddle you into a camp before you come close to deposing them. Also keep in mind they have had a good portion of our money to create all kinds of nasty repellants to quell any uprising.
Where do you think the contents of those letters mailed to Daschle and news anchors came from. Last I heard the track left off at an american military institution that houses biological agents. Do you, for one moment, believe a hesitation to use that or one of numerous other tricks in their proverbial bag that we are totally oblivious to will be released to dispell any kind of rebellion?
If you believe other wise then you also believe you own property.
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Post by tharrin on Jan 22, 2005 17:57:28 GMT -5
Unfortunately, it is more likely that they will huddle you into a camp before you come close to deposing them. Also keep in mind they have had a good portion of our money to create all kinds of nasty repellants to quell any uprising.
Where do you think the contents of those letters mailed to Daschle and news anchors came from. Last I heard the track left off at an american military institution that houses biological agents. Do you, for one moment, believe a hesitation to use that or one of numerous other tricks in their proverbial bag that we are totally oblivious to will be released to dispell any kind of rebellion?
If you believe other wise then you also believe you own property.
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Post by learnin2 on Jan 23, 2005 6:59:06 GMT -5
Unfortunately, it is more likely that they will huddle you into a camp before you come close to deposing them. Also keep in mind they have had a good portion of our money to create all kinds of nasty repellants to quell any uprising. What makes us think that it's OUR money? Do we control that value of it? Are we not all in dept?  |
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Post by lazerwood on Jan 23, 2005 8:40:03 GMT -5
>>What makes us think that it's OUR money? Do we control that value of it? Are we not all in dept?<< Did not our labor...(our life force), give real value to their otherwise worthless script? ...and this is what was really stolen from us?  |
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Post by tharrin on Jan 23, 2005 11:01:05 GMT -5
Yes you are correct learning that we are in debt but not debt of our own making. I am of course not talking about credit card or the numerous other personal debts that people can carry I am talking about the debt created by the supposed government.
Lazerwood is correct that we expended our life force to pay for things we wish to purchase and anytime another person or entity can take it from you without your permission you then become a non-contractual servant to that person or entity.
If no contract was signed or if you unwaryingly signed a contract where the terms of the contract were not explained fully (no meeting of the minds) then you have been tricked into fulfilling the terms of that contract.
When did you sign on to pay for the debts of a supposed government that is unaccountable for it's spending? That is like giving a child a limitless credit card and depending on that child to be fiscally responsible.
Where does the supposed government get its money without us. (Let's agree at this point to neglect the various drug schemes the gov has been involved in over the years).
They are not supposed to be self-suffiecient so we can have supposed control over those men and women d/b/a the government and the work that they do.
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Post by learnin2 on Jan 23, 2005 12:35:03 GMT -5
Where does the supposed government get its money without us.
They are not supposed to be self-suffiecient so we can have supposed control over those men and women d/b/a the government and the work that they do.
They get the money from the federal reserve, not us. It is credited to us as an I,O,U. We are supposed to be able to exchange it for real currency, at any bank. But the banks are now all run by the FR, and no longer use, or exchange for real currency. Take their I,O,U's down to your local gold and silver exchange and get real currency. Do not put any of your real currency in any bank!
At the current rate of exchange, $200.00 will buy you about $36-$40 in silver dimes, and vise-versa.
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Post by lazerwood on Jan 23, 2005 14:59:43 GMT -5
>>They get the money from the federal reserve, not us<< Do you mean the money that was created by the stroke of a pen, or do you mean the money created by monetizing "our" property or the property of nations that we're "liberating" I'm being sarcastic, of course ... not towards the author of this quote, but towards the "system". |
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