some lawyer responses....

[moosedog]

These are some responses to some guy my friend talks to in jail. The guy is in federal court for gun/drug charges. The judge told him to submit his questions in writing. The court didn't respond but his public defender did.

[marc stevens]

Could this attorney know any less about federal law? Why would he respond for the US attorney?

[damageinc]

16, How can you violate the right and injure a thing that factually does NOT exists?

[Darren Dirt]

NICE contribution to the AiLL resource vault! ;D


The first 10 were shockingly helpful and non-nonresponsive

The 2nd page was typical "case law is the final authority" garbage. Sadly. Especially how the "victim" question was ignored vis. the "constitutional" etc. definitions of words like "case" and "controversy" and even "plaintiff"


I'd be really interested in seeing the exact questions to which these were answers. (with any private info removed, of course).



PS: I noticed the images are hosted on photobucket.com -- I presume you have a "local" copy in case those images disappear, right?

[NonEntity]

An interesting thought just popped up in my head while reading Darren's comments above. I've mentioned several times in the infamous "Private Property" thread that "process" is key, not principle. I don't know that I've been really clear in explicating that idea, but I see that it applies here as well, so I'll point out the relevance.

In the letter above the questions are all laid before the respondent in bulk. He has grasped the totality of them and then replied to each one in the context of how he wants to deal with the whole.

One of the critical issues that is the value of Marc's process is that it is just that: a process. Marc has a well developed methodology of asking certain questions in a certain progression so as to establish a corner from which the "justice system" cannot escape without walking directly through the fresh paint of their just established responses. By dealing with small bites, the questioner puts the respondent in a position of not being able to see the big picture. By the time he or she has grasped the web of declarations that he has wrapped himself up in, there is no longer any way out.

The process is critical in holding the issues to principles and preventing obfuscation and distraction. So note that I am not saying that principles are of no import. Rather I am pointing out that principles will stand for naught if a solid process is not employed in gaining the agreement regarding those principles.

- NonE

[Darren Dirt]

Brilliant observation.

nonentity said:

In the letter above the questions are all laid before the respondent in bulk. He has grasped the totality of them and then replied to each one in the context of how he wants to deal with the whole.

- NonE

Uber-agreement from this guy.

it's along the lines of the "Hey 'King' David, YOU are that man!" method, imagine how he woulda responded* if instead of being told a "story" about "someone else", he was told "You done wrong, ya murdering bastage."


In the case of asking a collectivist/statist questions that reveal their ideological basis for daily living is fundamentally logically flawed, it's important to ask them general, noble-sounding questions that they answer first, in order to have later questions get answered within the context of what they have already willfully acknowledged.


I'm still very surprised/impressed by the first page though


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*hint: it probably involves another regally-authorized homicide

[eye2i2hear]

nonentity said:

I've mentioned several times in the infamous "Private Property" thread that "process" is key, not principle.
- NonE

Making then, using "process" the key principle...??


;D

[Darren Dirt]

[linguistictangent]You can have principles without being a prince, but can you have a prince with principles? :-\

[NonEntity]

You can't have decent printsiples if your toner cartridge is imptee.

- NonE

[lummox2]

You can turn a verb into a noun, reality don't care.

[Darren Dirt]

lummox2 said:

You can turn a verb into a noun, reality don't care.

I disagreement your sayingness.