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Post by KaosTheory on Dec 8, 2004 20:24:12 GMT -5
This is copied from SuiJuris.net from Sampson: I ordered the ticket slayer docs from ticketslayer.com/index.htm because I received two tickets a couple of months ago. Filed all docs, defaulted the DA, went to court and the judge had yet to review my docs. He rescheduled the court date to review my motions. Went to court today and SUCCESS! I went to the motion hearing today and initially told the Judge I'm hear on Special Appearance only, he said 'yeah.' He then said 'what's your name?' I said "I'm a Sovereign, flesh & blood, living being with the appellation of Ch -Will : Her .' (name withheld) He said 'Is this your signature?' I said "That's my autograph.' He said 'This is how you spell your name with a dash and colon?' I said 'That is correct.' He said 'Why don't you sign your name with a dash and a colon?' I said 'They are both my personal property and that's how I sign my name.' He then asked the DA how he wanted to proceed and the DA said 'The city doesn't have time for this gibberish, we dismiss these minor charges (tinted windows and no front license plate).' Judge said 'Prosecution move to dismiss and I concur so CASE DISMISSED!' Know who you are and it works!
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Post by KaosTheory on Dec 8, 2004 20:25:58 GMT -5
It's not the AiLL strategy but still interesting.
I wonder what really made the judge dissmiss it? Why does he care if the guy writes his name like that?
KT
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Post by sagas4 on Dec 8, 2004 22:45:04 GMT -5
KT,
There is a guy in Utah, can't remember his name but the show was on court TV not too long ago, spelled his name like that. Didn't pay property tax. Tried to claim they didn't spell his "Soverign" name correct so he wasn't payin. County evicted him and sold the property. He had no Land Patents or nothing other than a warranty deed. New owners go out to inspect property, Guy is back there squatting. They call Sheriff. Deputy Sheriff knows the guy and tries to talk him off the property. Guy shoots Deputy in leg. Guy is in Jail for long long time.
If anything it may have been the default process. Its used in commerce quite often. Could have been that the fines were not worth the time when there are others they can run through the meat grinder much more quickly and for a greater profit.
Don't think we'll know for sure but Hey. . . Congrads. are in order for not payin the man.
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Post by TicketSlayercom on Dec 9, 2004 0:05:48 GMT -5
My name is Greg and Sampson used my common law default process (TicketSlayer.com) to fight win his ticket.
The main reason I believe that the DA chose not to proceed with charges against Sampson was because Sampson placed the DA in legal default and the DA knew that he could not get around the default.
My common law default process sets the DA up to default on a list of common law claims in the Affidavit of Truth (one of the common law legal documents) served on the DA. Hundreds have used my common law default process and I have never had even one DA even attempt to rebut the Affidavit of Truth. A legal maxim holds that the party failing to rebut the other party's claims within the prescribed time limit must thereafter accept these claims as being true or fact.
One of the legal claims made in the Affidavit of Truth is that the legal fiction created by the state which is my name spelled in ALL CAPS is not me. When the state makes a claim in court then, it is up to the state to prove that claim if challenged.
The DA knew that, he could not prove the name in ALL CAPS listed on the complaint was the flesh and blood child of God standing before the court. Where was the legal contract that the person standing before the court willingly and knowingly signed stating that he was this legal fiction created by the state, or that he was responsible for this state created legal fiction?
For a court to legally try you the court must ascertain that you are the person charged in the complaint if you deny the person shown on the complaint is not you. Where is the proof? Who will under oath swear to this fact? Bring him forth and let him testify under oath that I am this legal fiction that you claim is me or that I have made myself responsible for.
There are several more common law legal claims made in the Affidavit of Truth and in total there are five common law legal documents that make up the default process. Approximately 95% of people who use my common law default process have their traffic tickets dismissed in traffic court.
Contact me at Greg@TicketSlayer.com if you have questions on the common law traffic default process. You can also visit my web site at TicketSlayer.com.
Greg
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Post by heidi on Dec 9, 2004 12:39:20 GMT -5
I'm familiar with the common law default process.
In Sampson's case, it seems evident that the persecutor felt the ticket price wasn't high enough to justify rolling around with Sampson.
If there were other sheep lined up for shearing within earshot of the exchange, this could be a second motivating factor for the persecutor to want to get Sampson shut up and out of there -- so P.Esquire could move on to a bigger fleeces and easier pickings.
When used in big-haul opportunities such as tax issues, however, the default process is very difficult to work. Clerks will continue to return documents for 'incomprehensibility' (setting the stage for psych evals if desired), refuse to file a document by its title, change the title, lose papers altogether, dic-ker over where it gets filed, misfile, refuse to acknowledge the plain meanings of the declarations and defaults, and play every other trick in the book (too many to list here)... mandation of ministerial duties notwithstanding. That's before the persecutors and robes start their own challenges.
In simple traffic issues, defaulting can work well if done properly, but Marc's approach strikes at the heart of it all (or the root of it) so quickly and efficiently that it may prove to be the superior method there.
edited to fix up naughtylang replacements for words
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Post by TicketSlayer on Dec 9, 2004 14:43:10 GMT -5
Heidi, in Sampson's case you may be correct that the DA was probably anxious to get this case dismissed because, there may have been lots of innocent sheep still left to shear. However, if the DA knew that he could easily slam dunk Sampson, he would have. The DA had two primary things to deal with that he could not easily overcome: First, the DA would now have to prove that Sampson was the person listed in ALL CAPS and/ or that, he had knowingly and willingly signed a legal contract that he was this fictional person and/or that, he was legally responsible for this legal fiction. Second, the DA had defaulted and a very long standing legal maxim decrees that, by doing so he lost all claim against the defendant, or the right to prosecute. This is morelikely why it was not worth the DA’s time.
While true that, common law arguments and legal instruments have and are being routinely subverted by our corrupt court system - my common law default process has proven to be highly successful in getting traffic cases dismissed in traffic court. Whether or not the courts are dismissing these cases because, the courts do not feel they have the time to deal with them, does not take away from their effectiveness in getting traffic cases dismissed. Almost always, the traffic court judges make sure that my customer's cases are the last to be heard. So, the court's primary motivation to dismiss must not be based upon its desire to move on to shearing other sheep because, there are none left in the courtroom by this time to shear.
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Post by heidi on Dec 9, 2004 17:17:16 GMT -5
Hello, TS!
Has a DA ever addressed the all-caps-name issue in a case where the defendant used your paper?
I'd be interested to hear what transpired, if you would be kind enough to describe what happened.
thanks in advance!
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Post by marc stevens on Dec 9, 2004 18:54:12 GMT -5
I have witnessed people going into court with this common law stuff and seen them get laughed at. All the lawyers do is ask the cop if the person they gave the ticket to is in the court room. The cop says yes and points to them. The lawyer with the robe then instructs him to participate or be held in contempt. This is NOT a patriot forum. I am a pretty open minded person and have been involved with the courts for about a decade. I see no rational basis for why men and women, who do business at the barrel of a gun, to drop a case on nothing more than, "Oh well, they figured out our little scam, the name in all CAPS, put your guns down fellas and leave them alone." Defaulting people who do business at the barrel of a gun? I think if the argument has merit, it is not because there is any truth to it, or that there is a shred of rationality to it, it is because it is such an incredible pain to deal with the people who bring it up. I think one of the grounds for this is the "state" can only operate on a fiction. First, this is erroneous because it presumes there is a "state" when it is easily demonstrated there is no "state." The concept of "nations" and "citizens" is false. Also, if one accepts, for sake of argument, there is a so-called "state," then it becomes nonsensical that the "state" may only operate on fictions. The lie is there is a "state" to protect life, liberty and property. Given the premise of the name in all CAPS, only fictions may be tried for murder or be expected to pay taxes. I think it's great anytime a ticket gets dismissed, the more the better. However, I agree with the DA, it is gibberish. It was probably dismissed because it is a pain to deal with.
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Post by Rizzotherat on Dec 9, 2004 19:03:33 GMT -5
Yes Mr. Stevens!!!! I am so glad that those words came from you: "This is not a patriot site". "Patriot" so called arguements are laughable and are nonsense. I am in 100% agreement with you Mr. Stevens. Thank you for saying so. The DA was right, it is gibberish. Libertarian YES YES YES!!! "Patriot" NO NO NO!
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Post by KaosTheory on Dec 9, 2004 19:22:30 GMT -5
Riz,
Factually, what is a patriot?
There is no fault in making a mistake. The fault is in not correcting the mistake after it's been pointed out and the truth has been revealed. At least someone stopped following the herd and tried something a little different. At least they stood up for what they believed in. That is what gets my respect.
Patriots(not Pay-triots) are victims of the brainwashing too. The sooner they come to realize the truth the better.
KT
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Post by TicketSlayer on Dec 9, 2004 19:35:43 GMT -5
Adventures in Legal Land's Home Page states the following:
General Board You can talk about anything here Moderator: marc stevens
Maybe I misread this. Hopefully some of you more enlighten brethren here can clear up my apparent misunderstanding regarding the above.
Greg
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Post by KaosTheory on Dec 9, 2004 19:37:42 GMT -5
Welcome to the forum TS.
KT
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Post by TicketSlayer on Dec 9, 2004 19:49:59 GMT -5
Thank you KT for your welcome. I am glad to be here ...or least I think I am. It seems that I stirred up a hornet's nest.
Hiedi, Rizzotherat and marc stevens I will be happy to reply to all of you in a short time but, at the moment I have pork chops on the barbie.
I came here with an open mind and I hope I am among like company. If not, I can deal with it.
Greg
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Post by heidi on Dec 9, 2004 20:20:16 GMT -5
TS! enjoy those chops! Something just occurred to me... you're in Oz. The all-caps-name thing really hasn't helped folks over here in North America. It may be a newer thing where you are. The response from the racketeers Down Under may take a little more time to fully develop. Here, bring up the "I'm not the strawman," or anything like it, and they'll blow sky high just before grabbing your entire wallet right out of your pocket as you are swept down the hall to your free two-to-a-room vacation cabana. I would like to welcome you, too. Marc has a great thing going here, and I hope you will join in.
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Post by sagas4 on Dec 9, 2004 22:08:47 GMT -5
Welcome TS!
The all caps name thingy is a bunch of bunk at least here in the good ole U.S.A. and here's the logical explanation why.
I have been known to do computer work from time to time. Worked on IBM mainframes back in the heyday of room sized computers. Have some friends that have done some work for state agencies.
Back in the day, it was not only a pain to have to change the print bands on the printers; If you had a print band that had upper and lower case and special characters, they way they were designed you lost a lot of space on the face of the print band. If you printed in all upper case you could have 3 or more uppercase A's, B's etc. etc., spaced equidistant at 1/3 way round the band depending on the model of printer. Guess what. You could print 3x faster! Now when you have several million slaves you have to print statements for at the DMV guess what? It saved a lot of time printing everything. Now not only that but The characters stored in the files had to match, cause if you tried to print lower case with an all uppercase print band, all you got was blank spaces. Now what did they do to ensure there were no blank statements. Same thing we all did during that era. Set the CICS Terminal to convert all characters entered to upper case when the enter key was pressed.
So now you say, well it's easier with todays technology. Well you are correct; however they still make mainframes, I know state agencies still use them cause a friend of mine retired IBM'er does consulting work for the State; and we just keep converting the old data in the old files to the new machines, first SD/SAM, then VSAM, then DL/I, Relational DB2, SQL, ORACLE, but we never went back and rekeyed the data by hand or wrote conversion programs to figure out what should be upper and lower because of all the manual labor involved.
As for the court cases ?? Hey maybe they just match the name with what is on the driver lic. for consistency. Maybe it is just a throw back, who knows, but I have seen a guy complainin bout something when I went to pay my $75.00 and Marc is correct. The judge just asked the witness to point out who it was, and ordered it entered into the record that the witness pointed to the defendant a.k.a. Uppercase Joe Blow, Now let's get on with stealin money.
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