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Post by marc stevens on Apr 24, 2007 15:48:40 GMT -5
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Post by eye2i2hear on Apr 24, 2007 16:23:25 GMT -5
duly noting the thread title inclusion of "irony"... but just to be on the safe side equally noting the "sweet": Is it checking "I choose not to vote" that invalidates The System (known as The State), or the registering to vote that's the validation? Is it significant to see if one has to register "to vote" in order to choose (the option) not to "vote"...? Simply more fancy word artistry/sophistry, where "I choose not to vote" actually means "I choose not to vote with these particular options"...? Is that the "sweet"?  |
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Post by Darren Dirt on Apr 24, 2007 16:43:07 GMT -5
My prediction:
*if* they actually go thru with this, it would be on a very small scale, and IMMEDIATELY cancelled and "forgotten" after its first attempt when they discover that more than 60% of "votes" cast are for the "NOTA" option. Cuz otherwise folks might start figuring out the math, and questioning the hoax...
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Post by lummox2 on Apr 24, 2007 16:58:24 GMT -5
Every vote cast in the "none of these candidates" box is an endorsement of the system. It changes the dissatisfaction with the whole boiling bunch of asshats into a mere quibble about which asshat "represents" "the people".
It's damn clever, I'll give it that.
I guarantee that a sweeping change in tax law based upon address is in the pipeline.
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Post by Darren Dirt on Apr 24, 2007 17:20:55 GMT -5
I doubt it will make ideological anti-voters to suddenly change their stance But imagine if more than HALF of those who ALREADY are "registered" -- who woulda voted for "somebody" anyway -- decide to vote for "NOBODY"... What would THAT say about the so-called "representative" system? |
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Post by marc stevens on Apr 24, 2007 18:41:30 GMT -5
"Sweet irony!" is a line from a movie, I just can't remember which one though.  |
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Post by Darren Dirt on Apr 24, 2007 19:09:31 GMT -5
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Post by eye2i2hear on Apr 24, 2007 20:56:22 GMT -5
Speaking of, DD, did you ever get around to watching another Jay & Silent Bob movie that came up in another thread discussion, " Dogma"? (I just watched it for about the third time last weekend) [also starring Chris Rock, Matt Damon, Alan Rickman, Ben Affleck, Selma Hayek, George Carlin, Alanis Morrisette...] ...its a two thumbs up!  |
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Post by Darren Dirt on Apr 25, 2007 11:17:54 GMT -5
[admitted Kevin Smith fan]of course![/admitted Kevin Smith fan] PS: Dontchathinkit'sweird that "Buddy Christ" has the Lynndie England pose going on?  |
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Post by eye2i2hear on Apr 30, 2007 23:06:18 GMT -5
ABC’s Ross: DC Madam’s List Includes White House & Pentagon Officials, Prominent Lawyers
ABC News’ Brian Ross revealed tonight that the list of customers of an alleged Washington-based prostitution service includes White House and Pentagon officials as well as prominent attorneys.
On Friday, Ross broke the news that U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Randall Tobias had frequented the escort service. Ross added new details to that story tonight, recounting how he asked Tobias in a telephone interview “if he knew any of the young women, their names. He said he didn’t remember them at all. He said it was like ordering pizza.” Under President Bush, Tobias oversaw a program helping men in poor countries “develop healthy relationships with women.”
Transcript:
ABC: You know, we understand his name is just one of many connected to the case of the DC Madam, as you mentioned. Why does she want the names to be made public?
ROSS: Well, she has been charged by federal prosecutors with running a prostitution service. She says it wasn’t prostitution, it was fantasy sex, legal sex, and she wants to call all of her prominent clients to testify. One, she says, it’s hypocritical of the government to go after her and the women who worked for her. And two, she wants them to testify as to whether there was or was not sex. And she’s intent on doing this. She’s turned down an opportunity to take a four-month prison sentence, plea out the arrangement. She wants to go to trial.
ABC: And Brian, I presume there are others on this list who will turn heads?
ROSS: There are thousands of names, tens of thousands of phone numbers, and there are people there at the Pentagon, lobbyists, others at the White House, prominent lawyers — a long, long list, and as well, the women who work for the service, David, include university professors, legal secretaries, scientists, military officers. -- ThinkProgress.org
DC madam takes first blood
April 30, 2007 12:00am
The demise of a callgirl ring and pending trial of an alleged madam claiming thousands of clients has the US capital riveted by the chance that powerful men may now be caught with their trousers down, with a senior State Department official apparently first to fall.
The US State Department announced on Saturday that Randall Tobias, the head of the US Agency for International Development, had resigned for personal reasons.
But ABC News reported that Mr Tobias had submitted his resignation after being contacted by the network, which obtained the telephone records of so-called "DC Madam" Deborah Jeane Palfrey.
Before he took the USAID post, Mr Tobias was President George W.Bush's first global co-ordinator of US efforts to fight HIV/AIDS. He was criticised during his tenure for his emphasis on faithfulness to partners and abstinence over condom use in trying to prevent the spread of AIDS.
Ms Palfrey, 50, has been arraigned in a federal court on charges of operating a Washington DC prostitution service for 13 years until her retirement last year.
She has denied she ran a prostitution ring. Her company, Pamela Martin and Associates, was simply a "high-end adult fantasy firm, which offered legal sexual and erotic services across the spectrum of adult sexual behaviour and did so without incident during its 13-year tenure", she said.
Ms Palfrey contends her escort service provided university-educated women to engage in legal game-playing of a sexual nature at $US275 ($333) an hour for a 90-minute session, the Washington Post reported.
But Ms Palfrey has also hinted that she had a record of the phone numbers of more than 10,000 customers that could embarrass more than a few of the US capital's high-fliers.
Her California home and other assets were seized by US tax authorities in October, and she has been trying to raise funds for her defence through an appeal on her website. Her lawyer, Montgomery Blair Sibley, told Fox television last month: "The statistical certainty (is) that there are a fair number of high-profile people who used this service across the Government and private sector in the metropolitan DC area."
And the Post reported that local jitters appeared to be multiplying. It said Mr Sibley claimed "he has been contacted in the past few days by five lawyers asking whether their clients' phone numbers are on Palfrey's list of 10,000 to 15,000 customers from 2002 to 2006".
That may have something to do with the fact that Ms Palfrey already has named her first name, as it were, on her website, where she has posted a court document from April 12 in which she alleges formal US naval commander Harlan Ullman was a "regular customer" whom she needs to subpoena.
Commander Ullman, with James Wade, developed the military doctrine of "shock and awe" used by the US Government in its invasion of Iraq. Earlier this month, Commander Ullman told CNN: "The allegations do not dignify a response," and referred any other questions to his lawyer.
Article from: The Australian
-- DC madam takes first blood | NEWS.com.au" innocent until proven guilty..." (of course, of course) |
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Post by Darren Dirt on May 1, 2007 11:13:47 GMT -5
...Why does she want the names to be made public? She's turned down an opportunity to take a four-month prison sentence, plea out the arrangement. She wants to go to trial....Ms Palfrey already has named her first name, as it were, on her website, where she has posted a court document from April 12 in which she alleges formal US naval commander Harlan Ullman ... Commander Ullman, with James Wade, developed the military doctrine of "shock and awe" used by the US Government in its invasion of Iraq. Deal? NO DEAL. Hey "Commander" Ullman! What goes around... |
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