Marc Stevens on Wikipedia

[ayanrand]

Here's your chance to contribute to the content:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adventures_In_Legal_Land

[creolefood]

There is a link to Marc's Drug War Scam video in Wikipedia in the "corpus delicti" article

[Neo]

thaught is mis-spelled

[Darren Dirt]

Be careful though folks, a lot of "new" Wikipedia bio-articles get tagged for "deletion" pretty quick if some Wikipedians think it is "original research", especially if it appears to be posted by the person himself.

So keep checking back over the next few weeks and "defend" it

PS: a while ago I had suggested the following verbiage, maybe some of that can be included too...

3 schools of individualist anarchism re. property -- Reply #80 on Nov 3, 2006, 5:05pm :-\



^ OKAY, done -- I stopped being lazy, I added "About the Author" and pasted in my verbiage, and modified the synopsis to be less vague. Probably the "back of the book" description should be excerpted in there as well. Also some of the Amazon.com contents re. the book might be referenced?

[creolefood]

"Marc's perspective is that the very concept of government is based on numerous dishonest and misleading labels and presumptions that amount to a complex public relations scheme. He has invited government supporters (including newsworthy politicians, lawyers, judges, reporters) to debate him on his radio show, stating that he wishes to focus only on "facts, not opinions" (he continues to observe that most of those invited have initially accepted, only to cancel at the last moment)."

The paragraph above is from the Wikipedia article. It's excellent writing, whoever did it. Remember, for anyone who wishes to expand the article, stay away from glowing reviews ; as much as we might agree that it's a great book, Wikipedia's article guidelines specifically warn against making an article a sales pitch.

[Darren Dirt]

TY for your appreciation, it was simply my attempt at combining Marc's book + Marc's words over the years + my perspective = into something a non-libertarian might understand and be intrigued by.

[eye2i2hear]

otay, Aill you "monkeys"...

coincidence?:

Invasion of the Web Amateurs by Steven Levy
Andrew Keen is not surprised at the latest twist in the ongoing saga of Wikipedia. In his view, the entire Internet movement involving "collective intelligence" and "the wisdom of crowds" is a cultural meltdown, an instance of barbarians at civilization's gates. He considers Wikipedia, the popular Internet-based encyclopedia written and vetted by anyone who cares to contribute, as as no more reliable than the output of a million monkeys banging away at their typewriters, and says as much in his upcoming poison pen letter to Web 2.0, "The Cult of the Amateur" (due from Currency/Doubleday in June).

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commentary moment:

[substitute human skull with computer keyboard? ;D... or "MainStreamMedia"!? ]

and then an excerpt part AiLl'ers will especially feel "good" about:

In Keen's view, sites like Wikipedia, along with blogs, YouTube and iTunes, are rapidly eroding our legacy of expert guidance in favor of "dictatorship of idiots." Reliable sources of information (like Encyclopedia Britannica, your local newspaper and even your beloved newsweekly magazine) are under siege from an explosion of self-appointed writers, broadcasters and filmmakers whose collective output, charges Keen, is garbage. What's more, he notes, in the war for eyeballs and ad revenues the amateurs are winning.
Some of Keen's points are well taken: I certainly agree that the survival of professional journalists is essential, both to society and to my mortgage payments. But much of his argument seems to blame the Internet for allowing freedom to flourish. Just as the printing press was disruptive in its time, the ubiquity of the Net and the cheap tools that give voice to anyone-- whether talented or not --has kicked off a period of creative ferment. The optimists among us believe that the cream will rise to the top; Keen speaks for the pessimists who believe that the bloviators will drive out the investigative journalists, craigslist will shoot down the newspapers and an army of half-witted YouTubers may block the ascent of the next Alfred Hitchcock.
I disagree. If we are to lost the beneficial halo generated by professionals, experts and geniuses, it won't be because of ankle-biting bloggers, callow Wikipedia authors and mediocre folk singers riding the long tail. It will be because the audience at large thinks that the truly good stuff isn't worth paying for. If all goes well, new business models will make it easier for excellence to be rewarded. In any case, we will ultimately get the media we deserve.

Steven Levy, in The Technologist, Newsweek March 20 2007

the (how ironic?) Mr. Keen's website. (is that an "egg"head?)

[NonEntity]

Uh-oh... 2i2's goin' visual on us. Be afraid, be VERY afraid!

;D

- NonE

[eye2i2hear]

feedback/fwiw:

the article has this:

"The non-fictional book focus on court procedures and the legal and political systems in America, and examines these and society in general from an alternative, skeptical viewpoint."

shouldn't it grammatically be:
"The non-fictional book focuses on..." (or "The non-fictional book's focus is on ...") ? ie "focuses... and examines..."

and a spelling error/typo:

"Marc Steven has also acted as a legal consultant in various traffic, tax, and drug cases, but now primarily offers seminars discussing the concepts covered in his book, including role playing among partipicants."

"Steven" needs to be plural "Stevens".

and a personal suggestion, I would rewrite this next part or delete it out altogether (to me/imho it sounds too much like commentary/opinion within then insignificant/unnecessary facts):

"Previous to getting his own show, Stevens had conducted interviews as guests on dozens of well known (especially in the "patriot" community), most of which can be found archived on his website."

considering a rewrite, you could include the "interviews" parts with the closing line as:

"Marc's "No State Project" is aired weekly on the Republic Broadcasting Network. His website includes archives of interviews on many other radio programs, available for free to listen to."

kudos for the entry!

[Darren Dirt]

Have fun cleaning up the wording that is there -- remember it is a "collective" (haha) project, not the work of any singular ego here on the board (or outside it )

[NonEntity]

What a strange concept. ("collective" project)

I'm wondering about the dynamic. In a political collective it seems that everything is reduced to the lowest common denominator. And yet in many ways the Wikipedia and the internet in general is a collective of another sort and may tend to head in the opposite direction. I think this needs to be examined and maybe the hidden (from me at least) truth of this revealed.

- NonE

[eye2i2hear]

Andrew Keen is not surprised at the latest twist in the ongoing saga ...

and of course none around AiLland is surprised at any twist'n, latest or otherwise, with the ongoing sagas... ;D
a regular Chubby Checker4sho 'nuff twister 'round here...

[eye2i2hear]

nonentity said:

Uh-oh... 2i2's goin' visual on us. Be afraid, be VERY afraid!

;D

- NonE

THE ALL-SEEINGEYE2I2

sees yE... sees AiLl...

[NonEntity]

See? I warned ya. Don't say I didn't warn ya!

- NonE

[eye2i2hear]

nonentity said:

See? I warned ya. Don't say I didn't warn ya!

- NonE

I figured as a NonEntity you must be buckin' for a Gumbit position (aka NOeSTATE fear mongerEr)... ;D

color you NonElert! da' NonPlant...

[you haven't told us subjects where we HAVE to send the $$ we owe you for serving us with this protection...??]